Rogue melee immune 30 sec? Broken....

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Evasion + Glyph of Evasion + Preparation = 100% Dodge for 30 secs
(These are Rogue skills and glyphs currently in game that at least in my knowledge aren't being deleted/modified in WoD)

In WoD classes are being looked over, but apparently this seems perfectly fine.

Rogues are probably going to say that no one never uses that glyph anyway because there are better alternatives and to that i have to say:
Probably, but it is situational and preference but this still is broken as hell, and no class should be able to be melee immune for 30 secs.

Edit: Without this glyph Rogues still have 20sec melee immunity.

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rogues can't dodge attacks from behind

there you go.

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Thank you, warrior, for this post; but as you mentioned yourself, no one uses these glyphs.

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rogues can't dodge attacks from behind

there you go.

Yes, although this is true for all classes. And you usually don't fight a rogue from behind.

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Thank you, warrior, for this post; but as you mentioned yourself, no one uses these glyphs.

I actually have 9 lvl 90's and main a druid and don't see the relevance between what i play and the rogue tool kit.

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Yes, although this is true for all classes. And you usually don't fight a rogue from behind.

You do if you're better than him. And if you're not, then his evasion won't count for much on account of him being behind you instead.

May the better player win.

[Ravester]

And i was thinking i had a bad time against 5 sec cloak of shadows. Good luck against that half-minute immune time.

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In what scenario are we? Arena? BG?

[GKLeatherCraft]

You do if you're better than him. And if you're not, then his evasion won't count for much on account of him being behind you instead.

May the better player win.

I call bullshit on that, No way you can ever fight someone from behind for the entire fight, maybe you'll start it behind them, get behind them when they've been stunned, but with differences in latency, and with two people turning, you would never stay behind someone.
Edit: To add, I'm talking about a fight with somewhat evenly geared people, obviously if you're 550 and go gank a newly dinged person the fight will be over before you know it, but if you're against anyone with similar gear who isn't afk, you won't stay behind them.

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Warriors can use Die by the Sword, Shieldwall, Intimidating Shout, Shockwave, Stormbolt and Glyph of Die by the Sword, Glyph of Shieldwall.
That are 16 seconds stun/fear before DR and 20 seconds of not dying and then some.

[Sesshou]

It isn't melee immunity. There is what others have said about being behind. You also can't dodge while stunned and lots of classes can stun through evasion. There are also attacks that just can't be dodged.

This also pretty much only relevant in a duel. In arena / rbg you aren't going to want to blow everything at once like that because then they know you have absolutely nothing. One evasion is enough to survive your healer's cc chain.

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If it was broken, people would actually bother to use it.

[Anzen]

At least you have the chance to attack for 30s.

My usual encounter with a Rogue:

I usually get put in a Cheap Shot, at that I'll stand up, take my headset off, have a cheeky stretch and walk out the room to fill up the kettle. I'll put it on to boil, pop my head back whilst waiting to see if I'm dead yet, nope but I'm in a Kidney at 50%. I'll get out my favourite cup (one that says Mr Grumpy on it that my girlfriend bought), pour in a scoop of instant coffee and get the milk out the fridge. A quick glance at the computer shows I'm in a Paralytic Poison stun, so I chuckle to myself then fill up my cup with the freshly boiled water, add the milk, give it a stir and take a sip. Ahhhh. I'll sit back down at the computer, put my headset on, drink on the desk, a smile runs across my face as I realise the stun I happen to be in runs out in 2 seconds! Now's your time to face my wrath Rogue!!!!

Spoiler Alert: He just used Vanish and opened on me again.

[Sib]

At least you have the chance to attack for 30s.

My usual encounter with a Rogue:

I usually get put in a Cheap Shot, at that I'll stand up, take my headset off, have a cheeky stretch and walk out the room to fill up the kettle. I'll put it on to boil, pop my head back whilst waiting to see if I'm dead yet, nope but I'm in a Kidney at 50%. I'll get out my favourite cup (one that says Mr Grumpy on it that my girlfriend bought), pour in a scoop of instant coffee and get the milk out the fridge. A quick glance at the computer shows I'm in a Paralytic Poison stun, so I chuckle to myself then fill up my cup with the freshly boiled water, add the milk, give it a stir and take a sip. Ahhhh. I'll sit back down at the computer, put my headset on, drink on the desk, a smile runs across my face as I realise the stun I happen to be in runs out in 2 seconds! Now's your time to face my wrath Rogue!!!!

Spoiler Alert: He just used Vanish and opened on me again.

How can you pvp if you don't know how to take care of a rogue?

[Gigana]

Evasion + Glyph of Evasion + Preparation = 100% Dodge for 30 secs

Any ranged stun negates all that.

[Anzen]

How can you pvp if you don't know how to take care of a rogue?

Never mind lol.

[Bryntrollian]

Stun em and apply the beatdown with cooldowns for the time you have

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In what scenario are we? Arena? BG?

In any PvP scenario.

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You do if you're better than him. And if you're not, then his evasion won't count for much on account of him being behind you instead.

May the better player win.

Ok, how do you (KEYWORD ---->) usually fight a rogue from behind, if your not a rogue yourself that is? In my experience the rogue usually fights me from behind.

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Warriors can use Die by the Sword, Shieldwall, Intimidating Shout, Shockwave, Stormbolt and Glyph of Die by the Sword, Glyph of Shieldwall.
That are 16 seconds stun/fear before DR and 20 seconds of not dying and then some.

So, what has this to do with the topic? You'r talking about warrior cc/defensive's , this topic is about one of the rogues defensive cd's (Evasion) that obviously is op.

[Ohmygonzo]

Bullshit post?

[Anium]

Newsflash! No one, at least pvpers worth their salt will use that, you'll miss out on too much damage / other resources ...so yeah.
Go tank Illidan again, lols idk.

[Viridis]

If the rogue has evasion up and he's meleeing you in the face, he won't be doing nearly any damage. Hemo hits like a noodle. And if you're just standing there hammering someone with 100% dodge in the face and not kiting, perhaps you're getting what you deserve.

The time a good rogue spends attacking you from the front and not kiting to land a restealth so he can stab you in the back instead is minimal. I don't think anyone who's had some sort of experience in rated pvp will feel that evasion is a big thing.