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    what prohibits someone from bombing IE a stadium?

    Germany is currently running a test with a drone delivery system overseas. It proves to be successful. They fly over there, drop the package with a build in mechanism, and done. Now what prohibits someone from flying a drone over say the super bowl and drop a pressure activated claymore or a wire of handgranades or a vial of cyanide? Seems like a golden opportunity for terrorism.

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    I have an anti-air missile system in my neighborhood.

    Drones get shot down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    Germany is currently running a test with a drone delivery system overseas. It proves to be successful. They fly over there, drop the package with a build in mechanism, and done. Now what prohibits someone from flying a drone over say the super bowl and drop a pressure activated claymore or a wire of handgranades or a vial of cyanide? Seems like a golden opportunity for terrorism.
    Not much, but then again the ability to do this has been around for some time, so.......

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    A budget, available tech, distance and delivery systems to get the drone near where it needs to be.

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    Nothing. Frankly very little stops that from happening regardless of whether or not drone deliveries are approved. It's not like we have SAM batteries scattered around every city or something.

    Bottom line, we can't be completely safe. It's all about weighing pros and cons and deciding which risks we're willing to take.

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    If I wanted to drone drone drop a bomb into a stadium right now you couldn't stop me. I don't see how it's going to be any worse now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    Germany is currently running a test with a drone delivery system overseas. It proves to be successful. They fly over there, drop the package with a build in mechanism, and done. Now what prohibits someone from flying a drone over say the super bowl and drop a pressure activated claymore or a wire of handgranades or a vial of cyanide? Seems like a golden opportunity for terrorism.
    Nothing.

    That's the thing about safety vs freedom. You could argue that in order to feel safe you have to remove every single bit of free will and liberty that a human posseses. Only then will you be truly safe.

    Lots of things can happen, you can never be truly safe and you just have to accept that.

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    inb4 "he who sacrifices liberty for freedom yadda yadda yadda"


    Honestly, nothing is stopping someone. Same as very little is stopping some maniac from kicking your door down right now and murdering you if they were dead set on doing it.
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    What stops someone buying a quadcopter right now, making a bomb, and killing people? You can do it right now, you know. Anyone can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    inb4 "he who sacrifices liberty for freedom yadda yadda yadda"


    Honestly, nothing is stopping someone. Same as very little is stopping some maniac from kicking your door down right now and murdering you if they were dead set on doing it.
    Well, maybe someone should make laws that make that impossible! Oh wait...

    Now seriously. If someone can't accept that the world is a very random and dangerous place than the best they can do is lock themselves on a padded room like that "Final Destination" movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    Germany is currently running a test with a drone delivery system overseas. It proves to be successful. They fly over there, drop the package with a build in mechanism, and done. Now what prohibits someone from flying a drone over say the super bowl and drop a pressure activated claymore or a wire of handgranades or a vial of cyanide? Seems like a golden opportunity for terrorism.
    Why the bother? Just carry the bomb yourself, leave under your chair, go outside the Stadium and arm it. Drones? Redundant.

    The real defense is carried out by the intelligence services that everyone hates: the CIA and NSA. It's they who get allerted when someone buys certain items that could be used to make a bomb and it's them who wiretap suspects to see what they're up to.

    Someone who conjures up a bomb from mid-air and delivers it to a crowded spot, would not be stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    What stops someone buying a quadcopter right now, making a bomb, and killing people? You can do it right now, you know. Anyone can.
    True..but you cant carry much. Good for assinating someone tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Descense View Post
    True..but you cant carry much. Good for assinating someone tho.
    If they didn't notice the ridiculously conspicuous flying minichopper slowly droning at them menacingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voisier View Post
    Only limitations i can think of is weight limit and budget. Drones civilians can aquire won't be robust enough to carry a payload big enough to do much damage. They could carry a few grenades but nothing much more than that. Give it a few years till old military tech makes it to the market and we can start flying drones able to drop some real hellfire.
    They can drop napalm. And also easy too make.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm
    Or a simple petrolium bomb.
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    Because you can't keep worrying how terrorists can use everything to attack people. That's what they (and our governments it seems) want you to be thinking.

    For all the airport security we have now, taking out a plane with an RPG is a billion times easier. IF anyone wants to kill people they can go about it in any number of ways in any different location. Don't think about it, don't let it effect your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voisier View Post
    Only limitations i can think of is weight limit and budget. Drones civilians can aquire won't be robust enough to carry a payload big enough to do much damage. They could carry a few grenades but nothing much more than that. Give it a few years till old military tech makes it to the market and we can start flying drones able to drop some real hellfire.
    A few grenades is plenty, tbh. I don't think a terrorist even thinks he could demolish the stadium.

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    The real problem will come when cheap, easy-to-manufacture drones the size of a fly are mass produced that can also kill people. Or perhaps a fly-drone biomech hybrid. Once tech reaches that level, NO public servant is ever safe. You can send those things inside a building to kill world leaders. Your only options would be to have world leaders be anonymous individuals (maybe you elect parties instead of people) or everyone just lives in air-tight buildings.

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    A few grenades is plenty, tbh. I don't think a terrorist even thinks he could demolish the stadium.
    They have other options besides bombs. They can release toxic gas, or powders, or poison the water / beer supply.

    Just build a drone crop duster except it delivers a payload of anthrax, lightly dusting the crowd. Symptoms of anthrax poisoning can take up to 2 months, so you'd never know.

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    tbh, it wouldn't need to do that much damage. If it's a full stadium, the resulting panic when everyone wants to get out NOW would do quite a bit of damage as well, people trampled and shit.

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    Pretty sure the amount of toxic gas required to kill 100,000 people in a non-enclosed space via a dispersion strategy would be more than a 3kg drone could carry (high-pressure vessels are really heavy). And a bomb capable of being carried by such a device would make a crater perhaps 1 metre across in the middle of the field. Cyanide poisoning? Good luck with that unless you have a large box of the stuff under every seat. When they used that for executions in the US it was in a 2 cubic meter box that was sealed off with about a kilogram of potassium cyanide inside it and they had to get the convict to take really deep breaths to get them to die within an hour.

    You'd have more success brushing the door handles and towel containers of the toilets with something tbh (you'd be disgusted at how many people don't wash their hands in public toilets).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    Germany is currently running a test with a drone delivery system overseas. It proves to be successful. They fly over there, drop the package with a build in mechanism, and done. Now what prohibits someone from flying a drone over say the super bowl and drop a pressure activated claymore or a wire of handgranades or a vial of cyanide? Seems like a golden opportunity for terrorism.
    Besides the fact that:

    - Claymores are not pressure activated, that only happens in the movies.
    - A string of grenades would do negligible damage unless you managed to drop them right on the crowd (on the pitch people would just see a drone carrying grenades and run away).
    - A "vial of cyanide" is a completely ineffective weapon and would do diddly squat.

    A drone is a really bad way of attempting an attack, they're just too obvious. Especially when you see them where they clearly shouldn't be.
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