Obama is just as good as Reagan at cutting unemployment

[Mistame]

Not all conservatives are racist,
But you cant tell me that all racists aren't conservative.

I'm going to assume that you typed that differently than you meant it. Because the implication that all racists are conservatives would make you look retarded.

not to the same extent.

If by "not to the same extent" you mean that the left doesn't get covered as much, then you may have a point. The fact of the matter is that both parties are nothing more than money and power machines. Those two items are the only things they actually care about. Neither side is more "socialist" or "racist" than the other; the political engines and media simply use those topics as carrots for votes. But they don't actually care.

And frankly, anyone spewing at the mouth about "republicans/conservatives" being "misogynistic/racist/homophobic", etc, is just as much an idiot as the half-wits spouting out about "jesus hates gays" and "Obama isn't American/is a Muslim", etc, etc. It's all fucking stupid, because anything based in "feelings", is inherently illogical and irrelevant.

[Xires]

A lot of people watch Fox News in the US, which perpetuates lies, and misinformation about Obama... It has also to do with racism, even though a lot of these same people deny it. There was no "tea party" before Obama took office, even though Bush was much worse on spending money the Gov did not have.

No actually Obama is worse with spending money as he has spent more then the last FIVE administrations combined. Oh its just Fox that lies, huh? Because CNN, MSNBC, and CBS ALL left wing news networks are just all about telling the truth, am I right? /GAG!

Jobs that have been brought back pay LESS then they did 7 years ago and MANY of the jobs that are created aren't even full time jobs. Also wait until 2015 when the rest of obamacare kicks in for small businesses that can't afford it. Also MILLIONS of Americans have just flat out given up on looking for work. If you actually think we are BETTER off then why are more people on food stamps and welfare then ever before?

I just think the whole world needs to blow up, fuck the human race.

[huntermikelson]

Funny how obama gets a worse rap than bush junior. Bush couldnt even figure out how to open a door. And he couldnt talk properly without someone telling him what to say

[user531345]

Yes because it was perfectly normal 15 years ago for 45+ Million people to be on assistance while working. Everything is fine. I am moving along.

It was because our wealth was redistributed 15 years ago Via HIGHER taxes, and tighter regulations, remember bush said all of those regulations and taxes were hurting the economy, so instead all we got was 8 straight years of outsourcing and income inequality.

The middle class in china and india is doing good, not so much here.

[Aeula]

Thanks King Obama.
Now the question is, is this a good thing? As in does this mean jobs are easier to find now? Or bad thing? As in people are scrambling for money and thus need jobs desperately.

[user531345]

Thanks King Obama.
Now the question is, is this a good thing? As in does this mean jobs are easier to find now? Or bad thing? As in people are scrambling for money and thus need jobs desperately.

Lol king obama

I wonder which party has a distinct love for autocrats and monarchies

[fengosa]

Yeah I saw that the unemployment rate had dipped to 5.9% last week and almost posted about it but I figured a lot of people have their mind made up on whether their economy is doing well or not. Ultimately the president doesn't necessarily do too much to affect the economy but small things like stimulus and tax changes do help. The most important take away though is the argument that the economy could be 'doing better' is less of a realistic complaint today then it has been in past years.

Since someone else brought up median income here's a look at it from census.gov. Aside from the dip during the recession income has seen an upswing as of late.

2013 (38) 11,651 30,509 52,322 83,519 185,206 322,343
2012 11,490 29,696 51,179 82,098 181,905 318,052
2011 11,239 29,204 49,842 80,080 178,020 311,444
2010 (37) 10,994 28,532 49,167 78,877 169,391 287,201
2009 (36) 11,552 29,257 49,534 78,694 170,844 295,388
2008 11,656 29,517 50,132 79,760 171,057 294,709
2007 11,551 29,442 49,968 79,111 167,971 287,191
2006 11,352 28,777 48,223 76,329 168,170 297,405
2005 10,655 27,357 46,301 72,825 159,583 281,155
2004 (35) 10,244 26,212 44,411 70,026 151,438 263,896
2003 9,996 25,678 43,588 68,994 147,078 253,239

[Mistame]

Not sure I get this part... are you saying that Republicans do not say some pretty misogynistic/racist/homophobic stuff, and to a greater extent than democrats? Because if so, statistically, you would be wrong. I can show you a great many links, including the GOP party platform, that is pretty misogynistic/racist/homophobic.

It means that statistically, "republican" stupidity gets reported more often. They all say stupid shit. The assumption that those flaws exist predominantly in the right is just an inherent flaw of apathetic ignorance.

[Afrospinach]

http://qz.com/275878/obama-is-just-a...-unemployment/

Interesting, I thought joblessness had increased under Obama but it looks like the massive trend started before Bush left office?

You know the world is just recovering from a financial crisis and all that, just about everywhere is experiencing some kind of similar result. I guess we unilaterally wised up and elected the smart people the world over? I am not really quite sure why people try and pin everything that happens to their president/leader, especially in one of the the most globalised economies in the world.

[fengosa]

It was because our wealth was redistributed 15 years ago Via HIGHER taxes, and tighter regulations, remember bush said all of those regulations and taxes were hurting the economy, so instead all we got was 8 straight years of outsourcing and income inequality.

The middle class in china and india is doing good, not so much here.

Which tax hikes are you referring to because as far as I know few if any occurred during the Clinton administration and the Bush administration cut taxes as early as 2001 or 13 years ago. It also be nice to know what you mean by doing well. China's middle class may be better off than they were 10 years ago but they used to be fairly poor so that's hardly a fair comparision. The odds are you're better off in America than China or India right now.

[Lenonis]

Neither side is more "socialist" or "racist" than the other

I mean...you can't actually believe that. I get most of your "both sides are bad" rant, but you cannot sit there and tell me that both parties are equally socialist or racists. I mean heck, the socialist part is pretty much impossible given how political definitions work.

And frankly, anyone spewing at the mouth about "republicans/conservatives" being "misogynistic/racist/homophobic", etc, is just as much an idiot as the half-wits spouting out about "jesus hates gays" and "Obama isn't American/is a Muslim", etc, etc. It's all fucking stupid, because anything based in "feelings", is inherently illogical and irrelevant.

Except these people then try to take their feelings and make them into policy. So yeah...it does matter that the GOP has an unfortunate tendency to find candidates that spew at the mouth about how much they don't like gays.

Your rant is a great venting session that is unfortunately not actually looking at the statements and policies put forward by the two parties. They are quite different even if there are some core areas that are the same. The false equivalency line just falls flat under any real amount of effort to look at the facts.

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No actually Obama is worse with spending money as he has spent more then the last FIVE administrations combined.

I feel like this is a debt vs deficit problem you are having.

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It means that statistically, "republican" stupidity gets reported more often. They all say stupid shit. The assumption that those flaws exist predominantly in the right is just an inherent flaw of apathetic ignorance.

I'm sorry, but to have any sort of statement that claims that the democrats are just as homophobic as the republicans is....just....there are not words.

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I am not really quite sure why people try and pin everything that happens to their president/leader, especially in one of the the most globalised economies in the world.

Well not only that but economic policies often take a long time to be felt. Some of the issues of the last several years can actually trace their roots back decades​.

[Last Starfighter]

and MSNBC makes him look like a God.
I'd rather watch an impartial network which covers both sides of the story and not being biased to either party

No they don't. They just don't spend most of their time creating insane bullshit from thin air.

[GrinningMan]

Positive racism is still racism.

[Lenonis]

Positive racism is still racism.

I'm curious what you mean by positive racism?

[Lenonis]

I am going to take a guess and say he means affirmative action.

Eh, I'm all about equality and I'm not a fan of affirmative action. I think it's the wrong solution for the right problem.

[Last Starfighter]

It means that statistically, "republican" stupidity gets reported more often. They all say stupid shit. The assumption that those flaws exist predominantly in the right is just an inherent flaw of apathetic ignorance.

That's not true at all. Republicans are ravenous about trying to hammer liberals into the ground. And you better believe that they would report on liberal stupidity if they found it. They want to find it. But they rarely do. Because most of the crazy shit comes from the right. Because when the truth isn't what you want it to be, just deny it and make up some stupid shit. Don't blame anyone else for it.

[Herecius]

How many host are liberal on NPR? How many conservative host do they have on NPR?

The point is that it doesn't matter because they aren't supposed to be bringing their ideologies to the listener, so it's a question you shouldn't be asking.

[Lenonis]

Because most of the crazy shit comes from the right.

When you have a core base of voters who are so out of step with everyone else, you have a higher chance of having people say things that are "crazy" when looked at by everyone else.

There is a reason when you take individual positions and poll them, the results are very much in favor of the right. It's just somehow in our goofy political system when you get all that rolled up and slap a label on it things get lost.

[Herecius]

Can you point me to where the democratic party platform states something similar to this:

http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/12...-sex-marriage/
http://www.newsweek.com/texas-republ...py-gays-254168

I really dislike the false equivalency arguments from the defenders of the GOP. The democrats are bad in some areas, yes, but no where as bad as the republicans, who actually put a lot of this BS into the public record, like their actual party platform.

To play devil's advocate here, Joe Biden says a lot of really stupid shit.

[Lenonis]

I think it's implementation is off, but the idea is good.

That might be a better way of saying it...but I think we're likely saying the same thing in different words.

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To play devil's advocate here, Joe Biden says a lot of really stupid shit.

He says a lot of stuff that's stupid. It's generally not all that offensive, however. Having one of your politicians say that he would vote to allow gays to be stoned is not only stupid, but also offensive.