1. 2014-10-06, 08:17 PM #1
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    WOD - Raid Comp Tool

    I've always found the MMO-Champion Raid Comp tool really useful, but I am sad that there isn't a WOD version up yet. Are there any plans to update the tool for WOD? If so, when could we expect such a glorious event to come to pass?
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  2. 2014-10-06, 08:39 PM #2
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    Usually it gets updated when someone provides me with a list of changes to make. No one has compiled the changes I need to make yet, so it hasn't been updated. I might do it closer to release if no one else steps up by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    Usually it gets updated when someone provides me with a list of changes to make. No one has compiled the changes I need to make yet, so it hasn't been updated. I might do it closer to release if no one else steps up by then.
    Hey chaud. This should be a summary of all the changes that need to be made to the raid comp tool. Everything that exists already should be kept unless it explicitly says to remove it. I also included the spell IDs for stuff that needs to be added/changed.

    Buffs
    Bloodlust/Heroism
    -Add Netherwinds (160452) for all Hunters (pet)

    Attack Power (%)
    -No changes

    Attack Speed (%)
    -Remove this entire category; consolidated into Haste (see below)

    Critical Strike Chance
    -Add Legacy of the White Tiger (116781) for Brewmaster Monks
    -Add Strength of the Pack (160052) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Embrace of the Shale Spider (90363) for Beast Mastery Hunters (pet)

    Mastery
    -Add Keen Senses (160039) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Plainswalking (160073) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Power of the Grave (155522) For Blood Death Knights
    -Add Moonkin Aura (24907) for Balance Druids

    Spell Haste
    -Remove entire category; consolidated into Haste (see below)

    Spell Power
    -Remove Burning Wrath from Elemental Shamans
    -Add Qiraji Fortitude (90364) for Beast Mastery Hunters (pet)

    Stamina
    -Remove Dark Intent for all Warlocks
    -Add Blood Pact (166928) for all Warlocks
    -Add Savage Vigor (160003) for Beast Mastery Hunters (pet)
    -Add Sturdiness (160014) for all Hunters (pet)

    Stat Multiplier
    -Change the spell ID of Legacy of the Emperor for Mistweaver Monks to 115921
    -Remove Legacy of the Emperor for Brewmaster and Windwalker Monks
    -Add Legacy of the White Tiger (116781) for Brewmaster and Windwalker Monks (now increases both Stats and Crit)
    -Add Bark of the Wild (159988) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Blessing of Kongs (160017) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Strength of the Earth (160077) for all Hunters (pet)

    Versatility (New category)
    -Add Unholy Aura (55610) for Frost and Unholy Death Knights
    -Add Sanctity Aura (167187) for Retribution Paladins
    -Add Inspiring Presence (167188) for Arms and Fury Warriors
    -Add Mark of the Wild (1126) for all Druids
    -Add Tenacity (159735) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Indomitable (35290) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Defensive Quills (160045) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Chitinous Armor (50518) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Wild Strength (57386) for Beast Mastery Hunters (pet)
    -Add Strength of the Earth (160077) for Beast Mastery Hunters (pet)

    Haste (New category)
    -Add Unholy Aura (55610) for Frost and Unholy Death Knight
    -Add Mind Quickening (49868) for Shadow Priest
    -Add Swiftblade's Cunning (113742) for Rogue
    -Add Grace of Air (116956) for all Shamans
    -Add Energizing Spores (135678) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Speed of the Swarm (160074) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Savage Vigor (160003) for Beast Mastery Hunters (pet)

    Multistrike (New category)
    -Add Windflurry (166916) for Windwalker Monks
    -Add Mind Quickening (49868) for Shadow Priests
    -Add Swiftblade's Cunning (113742) for all Rogues
    -Add Dark Intent (109773) for all Warlocks
    -Add Baleful Gaze (159733) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Spry Attacks (34889) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Agile Reflexes (160011) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Breath of the Winds (24844) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Frost Breath (54644) for Beast Mastery Hunters (pet)
    -Add Wild Strength (57386) for Beast Mastery Hunters (pet)
    -Add Double Bite (58604) for Beast Mastery Hunters (pet)



    Debuffs
    Armor
    -Remove entire category

    Cast Speed Slow
    -Remove entire category

    Healing
    -Add Deadly Bite (159963) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Gruesome Bite (160018) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Add Mortal Cleave (115625) for all Warlocks (pet)
    -Add Deadly Sting (160060) for all Hunters (pet)
    -Remove Widow Venom for all Hunters

    Physical Damage Reduction
    -Remove entire category

    Physical Vulnerability
    -Remove entire category

    Spell Damage Taken
    -Remove entire category
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  5. 2014-10-07, 08:26 PM #5
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    Wow, thanks Cryopathy!

    I've been working on a list for chaud, but your has a lot of stuff I've missed. This will be a big help. Thanks!


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  6. 2014-10-07, 11:56 PM #6
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    I'll see if I can get it updated at the end of this week or early next week. Thanks!
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    master list - warlords raid comp

    Buffs

    Mastery


    Haste (melee & cast combined)



    Stats



    Stamina


    Multistrike


    Critical Strike


    Spellpower


    Versatility


    Attack Power


    Short Term Burst Haste




    Debuffs

    Mortal Wounds




    Utility


    Remove Curse



    Remove [Defensive] Magic



    Remove Poison



    Remove Disease



    Offensive Remove Magic


    Battle Rez



    Enrage Dispel



    Interrupts



    Party/Raid Incoming Damage Reduction Cooldowns



    If anyone sees anything missing or wrong, please let me know and I'll update the list.

    Sorry for wonky formatting - it looks okay on edit but weird on save.
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  8. 2014-10-21, 02:15 PM #8
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    A few of the listings for hunter pets are missing/off. Clefthoofs (clefthooves?) are tameable now (BM only) and give versatility and multistrike. Stags are tameable by any spec and give versatility. Foxes give themselves a temporary dodge chance, not multistrike. Devilsaurs do apply a mortal strike debuff as listed but the ability is Monstrous Bite instead of Terrifying Roar. I think basilisks are supposed to give multistrike, but the spell linked isn't right and wowhead doesn't actually have a buff ability listed for them, so I'm not sure about that one. Also, Power Word Barrier is disc only, not priest baseline.

    Thanks, and I can't wait for the updated tool. I used the older one as a reference more times than I can count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thursley View Post
    A few of the listings for hunter pets are missing/off. Clefthoofs (clefthooves?) are tameable now (BM only) and give versatility and multistrike. Stags are tameable by any spec and give versatility. Foxes give themselves a temporary dodge chance, not multistrike. Devilsaurs do apply a mortal strike debuff as listed but the ability is Monstrous Bite instead of Terrifying Roar. I think basilisks are supposed to give multistrike, but the spell linked isn't right and wowhead doesn't actually have a buff ability listed for them, so I'm not sure about that one. Also, Power Word Barrier is disc only, not priest baseline.

    Thanks, and I can't wait for the updated tool. I used the older one as a reference more times than I can count.
    Thanks for feedback!

    Do you know the spell ID(s) for clefthoof versatility and multistrike?
    Do you know the spell ID for stag versatility?

    The spell I have listed for foxes doesn't seem to give multistrike now, but foxes are supposed to provide the buff according to Blizzard. Can anyone confirm if the ability still exists for foxes on another spell ID (if so, what) or if it was removed from the plan entirely because of the addition of clefthooves? Basilisks are also supposed to give multistrike, but I am unsure if it will be added to the listed ability in a later beta patch or they scrapped the basilisk multistrike idea entirely. This is currently the same issue with Chimeras and Frost Breath. The spell doesn't currently provide, and not sure if it will eventually as planned, nor if it will under that particular spell. In any case, that is three pets that are supposed to give multistrike but the abilities through which they will are currently unknown.

    We've already corrected the devilsaur error but good catch!

    I thought the barrier thing was odd, but figured it must have changed because it is listed as a baseline priest ability. Not sure if that is an error with the API or if it really did change. I'll check beta later to confirm. confirmed on beta that it's still disc-only
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    Stag - Grace / http://beta.wowdb.com/spells/173035

    I also figured out the confusion about Clefthoofs. Apparently the "Rhino" pet family has been renamed and expanded to the "Clefthoof" family. You actually have the correct spell IDs, just currently listed under the name Rhino instead of Clefthoof.

    Not sure about the Fox thing. It isn't an exotic family so it should only have 1 ability and they definitely have the self-buff dodge right now (monkeys have the same ability, so foxes aren't the only ones). Can't really help with the other two beyond saying Chimaeras are exotic so following the pattern they should have 2 buffs/debuffs and a special ability so they'll probably get something else, and Basilisks apparently have no buff/debuff at all right now which must be a bug, but again no way to know if/when it will be fixed and what the result will be.
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    Thanks! Big help.


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  12. 2014-10-23, 04:59 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I've always found the MMO-Champion Raid Comp tool really useful, but I am sad that there isn't a WOD version up yet. Are there any plans to update the tool for WOD? If so, when could we expect such a glorious event to come to pass?
    In the meantime, I have found this Google Sheet from Mymik incredibly useful (I did make some tweaks of my own and added the changes Yxiomel). It's saving me a ton of time trying to balance my roster as we recruit (and reduces the number of times I have to revise the roster posted on our guild site).

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...omp-Calculator
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    I see the tool has been updates, fantastic! Notices a couple of things that are still buggy, though, I'll write down what I saw.

    Brewmaster and Windwalker monks' Legacy of the White Tiger also provides stat multiplier (they no longer have Legacy of the Emperor)

    MM and Surv hunters can now also bring Ancient Hysteria/Bloodlust through Nether Ray (and the spell is called Ancient Hysteria, not Netherwinds).

    Balance druids' Moonkin Form also grants raid mastery buff.

    For some reason it showed me Blessing of "Kongs" (typo), but it seems to be back to normal now, and I cannot seem to replicate it.
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    Blessing of Kongs is a hunter pet buff from gorilla.


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    Oh, clever. I must say I think "Bark of the Wild" is even better, though, from Dog pets!
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    Thanks! Making a list of necessary changes for the next update:

    Mastery
    Add http://www.wowdb.com/spells/24858 (Balance Druids)

    Stats
    Add http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116781 (WW and BM Monk)

    Crit
    Remove http://www.wowdb.com/spells/17007-leader-of-the-pack from Guardian Druid

    Burst Haste
    Change http://www.wowdb.com/spells/160452-netherwinds to http://www.wowdb.com/spells/90355 on Hunter Pet\Nether Rays


    (The burst-haste one is actually correct - Ancient Hysteria is Corehound only. The ability for Nether Ray is Netherwind. At least according to Blizzard's tooltips!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tziva View Post
    (The burst-haste one is actually correct - Ancient Hysteria is Corehound only. The ability for Nether Ray is Netherwind. At least according to Blizzard's tooltips!)
    Yeah, I thought it was a bit weird, but my hunter's Nether Ray has Ancient Hysteria on live at the moment at least, might be an oversight from Blizzard.

    I couldn't find it on the wowdb website, but you can see it on these wowhead pages:
    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=90355 (Ancient Hysteria)
    http://www.wowhead.com/pet=34#abilities (Nether Ray abilities)
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    Still not sure why http://www.wowdb.com/spells/160452-netherwinds is showing the burst haste, but since Nether Rays don't even have that ability right now, I've gone ahead and updated the change list to use http://www.wowdb.com/spells/90355 instead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tziva View Post
    Thanks! Making a list of necessary changes for the next update:

    Mastery
    Add http://www.wowdb.com/spells/24858 (Balance Druids)

    Stats
    Add http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116781 (WW and BM Monk)

    Crit
    Remove http://www.wowdb.com/spells/17007-leader-of-the-pack from Guardian Druid

    Burst Haste
    Change http://www.wowdb.com/spells/160452-netherwinds to http://www.wowdb.com/spells/90355 on Hunter Pet\Nether Rays


    (The burst-haste one is actually correct - Ancient Hysteria is Corehound only. The ability for Nether Ray is Netherwind. At least according to Blizzard's tooltips!)
    Should be all updated now. Huzzah!


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