[6.0] Brusalk's Destruction Warlock Guide

[Nerraw]

Y'all think if we focus our feedback we can get Fel Flame back before the final tier of WoD ?

Highly unlikely.

[Grizelda]

I wish that there really was a plot against us but I think it's apathy. Our concerns are so low on the punch list and we were pretty good last expac so I'm pretty sure that they are thinking, "Fuck them, who am I getting drunk with at BlizzCon next week."

[Jetjaguar]

What

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sniper training is incredibly easy to keep up

[FurtyIRL]

sniper training is incredibly easy to keep up

The point was that you can't strafe back and forth and do backflips as was suggested ? Off-topic at this point though.

[Deleted]

Sniper training is in my opinion a (very good) joke. It means never hesitate to move when you have to, the penalty when you're unable to keep the buff up is marginal and it's better to always be casting.

[xskarma]

/me checks forum

Yep, still Warlock forum. Can we drop the Hunter discussion? It's not really relevant since Hunters are Ranged/Melee Hybrids when it comes to Blizz's philosophy so comparing ourselves to them is pretty useless.

[gahddo]

They have stated a few times that they never wanted it in the ST rotation, yet it always seems to find itself in 100% or when a proc occurs / is down.

T14, check.
T15, check.
First weeks of T16, check.
T17, check.

For a company that doesn't want RoF to be used in the single target rotation, it's really impressive that it has been during some point of every tier since the class relaunch.

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Last time I specifically tested this LoS was not needed, but Havoc would not copy spells if you were more than (I think) 100 meters away.

LoS has no effect on havoc, neither does direction. At the start of t14 it used to be that you had to be facing the direction of the target that was havocd or the spell wouldn't work. That was quickly changed when they realized how dumb it was.

It does, however, have a max range, which is normally not relevant on fights.

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Is ROF back in the single target rotation?

Yes.

I THINK best practice is to use it when you have no stacks of Backdraft. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

It actually says in the guide; basically keep RoF down always. You cast incinerate in place of RoF when you have backdraft stacks and the next global is chaos bolt, so that you do not waste your stacks.

Are people bothering to use GCD's to lay down RoF during procs when you have embers to use? Does it have THAT kind of priority?

Clarifications on RoF. Understand these acronyms. DPM, EPM. For the purposes of this post, these now mean damage per mana, and embers per mana, respectively.

Numbers are referenced here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wRro5n8ZBHj39UCkghUFi6bK6rkuJKOomZyXY-67ZmQ/edit#gid=0

rain of fire beats incinerate by ~5% DPM, and ~27% EPM.

backdraft incinerate beats rain of fire by ~36% DPM, and 12.6% EPM.

One looks at that, and normally goes 'pretty obvious, incinerate if backdraft is up, rain of fire, incinerate.'

It took me a while to figure out why the sim was telling me to absolutely push for maximum RoF uptime. The basic concept is this:

As long as you never let a backdraft drop, or use it on chaos bolt, you never lose the amount of dps that it beats RoF by. Prioritizing BD incinerate over RoF, on the other hand, means that you end up spending more mana on non-BD incinerates, and less on rain of fire.




TL;DR - Prioritize rain of fire over incinerate, unless backdraft is going to fall soon, or you might have to waste some in a chaos bolt cycle.

[Deleted]

sorta sad that RoF has come back into our ST rotation again.

[FurtyIRL]

sorta sad that RoF has come back into our ST rotation again.

Not sure why, for such a simple thing it adds a lot of rotational complexity early tier with its interaction with mana.

[Rayaleith]

sorta sad that RoF has come back into our ST rotation again.

I am ok with it, considering there is not thing to cast while moving.

[Santoisms]

I am ok with it, considering there is not thing to cast while moving.

Yeah but it's so clunky when you're standing still.

[Turturin the Warlock]

Yeah but it's so clunky when you're standing still.

meh, there should just be a minor glyph to have it cast centered on your current target, but putting development effort into glyphs is like, against the law or something.

[Deleted]

So what you're saying, is keep rain of fire up 100% on st? sorry, only played demo since pre-patch, so not gone into destro rotation

[Santoisms]

So what you're saying, is keep rain of fire up 100% on st? sorry, only played demo since pre-patch, so not gone into destro rotation

RoF in 6.0 is 100% ST yeah.

[Deleted]

RoF in 6.0 is 100% ST yeah.

What about a fight like protectors, would RoF be a waste to keep up, or how does it work?

[andromalia]

What about a fight like protectors, would RoF be a waste to keep up, or how does it work?

You would still want to use ROF while hitting as many targets as you can (MF works good here), but honestly Affliction is still better for these multi-target fights.

[Deleted]

What about a fight like protectors, would RoF be a waste to keep up, or how does it work?

No, it's even better.

[gahddo]

You would still want to use ROF while hitting as many targets as you can (MF works good here), but honestly Affliction is still better for these multi-target fights.

No, it really isn't. Afflictions dots were crippled, afflictions dot swapping was crippled, and it's still gated to 1 target nightfall procs.

Testing for 5 minutes on dummies in shat was enough to prove affliction is miles behind demo and destruction for anything greater than one target.

All raid testing that any of my friends and I have done shows that fact on basically every mythic fight in tier 17.

[Santoisms]

No, it really isn't. Afflictions dots were crippled, afflictions dot swapping was crippled, and it's still gated to 1 target nightfall procs.

Testing for 5 minutes on dummies in shat was enough to prove affliction is miles behind demo and destruction for anything greater than one target.

All raid testing that any of my friends and I have done shows that fact on basically every mythic fight in tier 17.

I think Andro was referring to T16 still.

[Deleted]

Not sure why, for such a simple thing it adds a lot of rotational complexity early tier with its interaction with mana.

i was refering more to the fact that blizz flat out said it was bad design to have it in our ST rotation, nerfing its ember generation as a result, only to have it inadvertently return bcoz of how badly they designed the spec in WoD.

and tbh, it doesnt really add any complexity imo, it adds more annoyance than anything.