Arizona professor claims U.S. military 'greater threat' to peace than ISIS

[habitsbreaker]

You can't possibly postulate that religion is not the problem here? ISIS and just about all other terrorist organisations are clearly fighting for religious purposes, and for what they think is right according to their religion, wrong as they might be. Just like the christian crusaders in the middle ages, they are killing people in the name of their God.

its funny that most of these groups are considered as a terrorist group only by the united state of america

[Tierbook]

its funny that most of these groups are considered as a terrorist group only by the united state of america

Like who exactly?

[WskyDK]

its funny that most of these groups are considered as a terrorist group only by the united state of america

And sometimes we work with/create them. The PKK comes to mind.

Here's a handy list of terrorist organizations recognized by the US.
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

[twh]

Mmhmm, right. Common sense. As a middle class, working, American trying to support a family, ISIS activities (or activities of any of those animals in the middle east) do not affect my freedom, prosperity, or safety. They hate us because we're over there. American foreign policy is the equivalent of fighting crime by traveling to another state across the country, entering the poorest, ghetto, gang-filled slum you can find, and start shooting up people/places/things.

Stay at HOME, buy an alarm system, get a watch dog, put up a fence, buy some guns and protect your HOME.

I blame republicans and democrats.

[CptEgo]

Ehhh, I do think many issues would resolve, but something would take their place e.g. income inequality (and socioeconomic status)

Those things would probably not cause genocide though. I remember an episode from Family Guy where Brian and Stewie visit a futuristic society with flying cars and spaceships. Brian asks where they are and Stewie answers "We are at the same place at the same point in time, but in this world, the dark ages never happened, so they are 1000 years ahead".

[WskyDK]

Mmhmm, right. Common sense. As a middle class, working, American trying to support a family, ISIS activities (or activities of any of those animals in the middle east) do not affect my freedom, prosperity, or safety. They hate us because we're over there. American foreign policy is the equivalent of fighting crime by traveling to another state across the country, entering the poorest, ghetto, gang-filled slum you can find, and start shooting up people/places/things.

Stay at HOME, buy an alarm system, get a watch dog, put up a fence, buy some guns and protect your HOME.

I blame republicans and democrats.

Isolationism isn't the way to go. Encouraging and aiding foreign powers in handling the issues is.
You can stare your your windows until you turn to dust, the US can't afford to isolate itself.

[Deleted]

No shit.
“The quickest way to end a war is to lose it.”
-George Orwell

[WskyDK]

Those things would probably not cause genocide though. I remember an episode from Family Guy where Brian and Stewie visit a futuristic society with flying cars and spaceships. Brian asks where they are and Stewie answers "We are at the same place at the same point in time, but in this world, the dark ages never happened, so they are 1000 years ahead".

You're likely correct in regards to genocide. In my mind I'm picturing the water issues in Detroit. The poor couldn't afford to pay their utilities and had their water shut off. I get that they should have payed, but water is an essential aspect of human survival. People will kill over water.

[AeneasBK]

No shit.
“The quickest way to end a war is to lose it.”
-George Orwell

Yeah but he was using idiom. He just meant "lose it" as in "lose your rag", go berzerk...

[CptEgo]

You're likely correct in regards to genocide. In my mind I'm picturing the water issues in Detroit. The poor couldn't afford to pay their utilities and had their water shut off. I get that they should have payed, but water is an essential aspect of human survival. People will kill over water.

Thats what most dystopian novels and movies depict, a society where people are fighting over basic resources and violent gangs rule. Nothing about religion in those stories :-D

[Theinquisition]

its funny that most of these groups are considered as a terrorist group only by the united state of america

So I take it you're a ISIS supporter?

[habitsbreaker]

Like who exactly?

ok maybe that was an exaggeration, but in most cases in the US and some other country, like ASL ans jund alaqsa

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So I take it you're a ISIS supporter?

no, but i still think of them as a lesser evil of in some parts of the region than the other options

[Tierbook]

ok maybe that was an exaggeration, but in most cases in the US and some other country, like ASL ans jund alaqsa

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no, but i still think of them as a lesser evil of in some parts of the region than the other options

Exactly who are they a lesser evil than? The ones who don't commit genocide?

[habitsbreaker]

Exactly who are they a lesser evil than? The ones who don't commit genocide?

in the last 10 days he Iraqi army and the Shia militants killed more than 500 civilian in what we call bagdad belt, they kicked thousands of Sunni people out of their homes , so yes for the"Sunni people" in Iraq ISIS is a lesser evil that the Iraqi government and it's Shia army

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http://m.hrw.org/news/2014/11/04/gangs-iraq
You probably don't trust me so here is a source u might trust http://m.hrw.org/news/2014/11/04/gangs-iraq

[Tierbook]

in the last 10 days he Iraqi army and the Shia militants killed more than 500 civilian in what we call bagdad belt, they kicked thousands of Sunni people out of their homes , so yes for the"Sunni people" in Iraq ISIS is a lesser evil that the Iraqi government and it's Shia army

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http://m.hrw.org/news/2014/11/04/gangs-iraq
You probably don't trust me so here is a source u might trust http://m.hrw.org/news/2014/11/04/gangs-iraq

Oh I believe you, though I feel it should be noted that several hundred Shia have been killed by ISIS suicide bombers in the past few months. It's not like this came out of nowhere.

[Theinquisition]

ok maybe that was an exaggeration, but in most cases in the US and some other country, like ASL ans jund alaqsa

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no, but i still think of them as a lesser evil of in some parts of the region than the other options

I'm sure when they are not beheading people, executing shia, and stomping christian babies to death they are knitting sweaters and participating in bake sales.

[Deleted]

And hes still alive? If that was a Baghdad professor who had claimed that about ISIS (in Iraq), he'd be pushing up daisies right now. So guess whos the bigger threat..

[CptEgo]

And hes still alive? If that was a Baghdad professor who had claimed that about ISIS (in Iraq), he'd be pushing up daisies right now. So guess whos the bigger threat..

Exactly. The mere fact that he can say that without fearing for his life proves that he is wrong.

[Thekri]

The military itself is a tool. Those in power who wield it, are the danger.

A nice saying, but not really true at all. Nobody has a military that is purely a tool. The military is full of aggressive, ambitious, and intelligent people. It can make its own decisions, plot its own course.

Now, the US has a military that is very loyal to its government, but isn't infinitely loyal. This can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your perspective. Either way the US Military itself is extremely dangerous. Not saying you need to be scared, but sometimes it is good to recognize that very friendly bear can still tear you head off, and it is dangerous, no matter how friendly it is.

[habitsbreaker]

I'm sure when they are not beheading people, executing shia, and stomping christian babies to death they are knitting sweaters and participating in bake sales.

did you really just say that? do you have any proof, however i have lots of vids and pics of slaughtered sunni babies , the shia slaughtered em with knives, if u wana the pics send me a private msg