[Idea] Ship System

[Alexand3r]

A nicely well thought out idea. I'd definitely throw my support behind this.

An addition to it from a PvP perspective would be a flag/sail system. Throw up you're faction flag or sails and you can attack others of the opposite faction if they're rocking their own colors. Or take the censure of agony route and maybe throw up a Bloodsail flag or sails and you can attack anybody.

While you're at it with the cosmetic ideas, have flags/sails representing the various factions of the game like tabards.

The flag/sail idea could work. Something like the censure of agony was also suggested by another mmoc member on this thread. I think it might be the best way to go for something like this. And yes, I'd love to have flags/sails that represent the various factions! Some could be obtained from the faction's quartermaster, others via quests. As far as cosmetic changes are concerned, there's so much that could be done.
For instance, there could be a quest like this one:

Quest: Escort to safety the Night Elven ship.
Reward: Darnassian Sails

A quest like this one could also reward a cosmetic upgrade that makes your cannons more darnassian-like (although I'm not sure Night Elves are fond of Cannons). As I also said in the original post, similar quests could reward you with unique crew members, like a Night Elf Huntress, in this case.
It would be fun to see race-specific cosmetic upgrades. or even class-specific upgrades. Death Knight could envelop their ship in ice, Mages could have brooms sweeping the deck, etc.


@Ttak82 Thank you for the feedback! I like your suggestions, but I don't agree with all of them. Plus, I think that moving ships with WASD would make them more engaging.
Anyway, regarding your suggestions. I don't agree with 1 and 2. I really don't want to see this feature turning into a phased/instanced thing. 4 is something I'd like to see in a feature like this. Having aerial enemies could even make it more interesting. I'm also not sure about Ammo. On one hand I think it would make ships more interesting, on the other hand I think it could make the feature troublesome. I like your other suggestions! Thank you for sharing them with us!


@Serenais Well, people could hop from one ship to the other if both ships are close enough, but it would be nice to have them connected via ropes, planks, etc.


Here's another achievement I came up with:

[Patife17]

Amazing work! Good job.

[Deleted]

Some of the ideas were a little ehh, like the Bloodsail questline... it just wouldn't make sense to suddenly go against your own faction, considering a lot of the quests in the game commend you as the hero of the Alliance/Horde, so... yeah. But other than that, I like it.

*cough* timeless isle bloodcoins *cough*

Sure we are commended as heroes of our people. As was Arthas


I would LOVE if blizz explored the ability to join sub-factions. Timeless isle was a well thought first step into that direction imho. Noones asking for a horde to be able to kill Vol'Jin, but not all faction within a faction like each other...see Dark Iron Dwarfes vs. Bronzebeards. And I would freaking love to join the Scarlet Crusade

[Laringar]

WoW already has ships, just Google for "Thrall Jaina ship"

On second thought, don't.

On topic, it's definitely an interesting idea, though I have to agree with those that said overcrowding can definitely be a problem.

And naming ships will definitely need the normal naming restrictions, I can see that going horribly wrong at times.

[Alexand3r]

Thank you all for the feedback once again

WoW already has ships, just Google for "Thrall Jaina ship"

On second thought, don't.

On topic, it's definitely an interesting idea, though I have to agree with those that said overcrowding can definitely be a problem.

And naming ships will definitely need the normal naming restrictions, I can see that going horribly wrong at times.

Overcrowding could be a problem but I'm sure Blizzard could find a way to make it work. And naming ships would probably have the normal naming restrictions. I wouldn't want to see names like: Deseaismybiatch, Shipn00b, Waterpls, Orcscantswim, Iaregudcaptain, Kickassship, etc.
Yeah...a system like this one would really, really need naming restrictions.

[Deleted]

Really cool idea! It reminds of Warcraft 2 I remember that there where some ships units in that game. Maybe I didn't read closely enoguh, but it would be cool to jump over to the enemy's ship with your character and use the ship as a place to pvp on, killing the other crew.

[Bosen]

Great ideas! I fully support this.

[Alexand3r]

Really cool idea! It reminds of Warcraft 2 I remember that there where some ships units in that game. Maybe I didn't read closely enoguh, but it would be cool to jump over to the enemy's ship with your character and use the ship as a place to pvp on, killing the other crew.

You would actually be able to do that with this system!


@DomesticViolence Thanks!

[Deleted]

It's a nice idea, not sure how well it would play out. The amount of work you put into this is amazing, though. Well done

[ttak82]

[QUOTE=Alexand3r;30459241]
@Ttak82 Thank you for the feedback! I like your suggestions, but I don't agree with all of them. Plus, I think that moving ships with WASD would make them more engaging.
Anyway, regarding your suggestions. I don't agree with 1 and 2. I really don't want to see this feature turning into a phased/instanced thing. 4 is something I'd like to see in a feature like this. Having aerial enemies could even make it more interesting. I'm also not sure about Ammo. On one hand I think it would make ships more interesting, on the other hand I think it could make the feature troublesome. I like your other suggestions! Thank you for sharing them with us!
/QUOTE]

The reason why I feel that ammo should be there is that you feel like you are (micro)managing a ship. It does depend on the way the system is imagined ; you imagine it as a ship being controlled by WASD keys. I imagine it as an area where classes are active and can perform their moves. Without canons and such elements , then it feels like a PVE area where classes perform as usual and there is the whole thing about FoTM classes.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Aeluron Lightsong approved /stamps Idea.

[Volibear]

Ubisoft gets in on the action! World of Warcraft: Black Flag

Honestly, I like the idea. But it'll just end up being a gimmick, like pet battles.

[Blithe]

Sounds awesome. Would definitely support this if Blizzard connected the entirety of Azeroth, instead of having each continent instanced, so that we're able to cross-continent via Ship.

[endersblade]

That is one of the most amazing OPs I have ever read. Bravo dude, bravo.

[ReleaseDay]

Ubisoft gets in on the action! World of Warcraft: Black Flag

Honestly, I like the idea. But it'll just end up being a gimmick, like pet battles.

Even if so, how would that be a problem?


Don't listen to these flamers op, it is a good idea.

[Alexand3r]

@Raptor Thanks!

The reason why I feel that ammo should be there is that you feel like you are (micro)managing a ship. It does depend on the way the system is imagined ; you imagine it as a ship being controlled by WASD keys. I imagine it as an area where classes are active and can perform their moves. Without canons and such elements , then it feels like a PVE area where classes perform as usual and there is the whole thing about FoTM classes.

Well, ammo could indeed play a role in this sytem, if it doesn't prove being troublesome. And you would be able to use your character on the ship and attack other enemies with your abilities, as long as you're not using the Ship's Wheel (which is what allows you to control your ship.) I think it would be boring to have a ship as a simple PvE area.

@Aeluron Hahah thank you!
@Volibear World of Warcraft: Black Flag sounds pretty cool, to be honest hah
@Blithe, endersblade, 1ns Thank you!


I found the goblin ship someone spoke of here (it looks funny. I'd use it!).

[Deleted]

If I were bliz I would hire the OP for the brainstorming session.

Not saying this is a great idea, it may be a flop.

But man, that much work..

[Alexand3r]

If I were bliz I would hire the OP for the brainstorming session.

Not saying this is a great idea, it may be a flop.

But man, that much work..

Hahah thank you!
Yeah, it may or may not flop. It all depends on how it's implemented.

[Z3ROR]

Guild version i posted more than a year ago:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ousing-System)

[sam86]

I admire and respect the really long work and effort you did, I salute you
But sorry I don't like it, I see some elements maybe added to Garrison better, lets also first wait and see if Garrisons are ok in first place in-game before we go and talk about ship system