is the LOOT system a joke???

[PrairieChicken]

PL is really inferior compared to the group loot, so I advise grouping up to gear up faster.

[Stacie]

So far not seen a wep drop and lost count in how many instance's i have tried. TBH i have not even see one drop for anyone let alone myself.

[Deleted]

So far not seen a wep drop and lost count in how many instance's i have tried. TBH i have not even see one drop for anyone let alone myself.

This is true however, haven't actually seen a single person in any group with an ilvl 630 heroic weapon.

[Ghostile]

This is true however, haven't actually seen a single person in any group with an ilvl 630 heroic weapon.

Our ret paladin just got a heroic warforged hammer from auchindoun.
I am jelly.

[Xkiller9000]

I have done easy 35 dungeons since I hit 100 and I have gone from 602 to 608. I am gearing resto and keep getting dps trinkets etc. So yes the new system is a joke.

Ive done about, about 15 heroic dungeons? and in that ive gone from 610 to 627

[Comp]

5 instances - 1 drop.
Some bosses seem to have no drops, people cant greed/pass on items I need and they dont want or already have.
Sorry but not gonna spend 4 days tanking normals for nothing. trying 2 get to ilvl610...

It was a promising expansion Blizz, shame I paid for 2 months

Run a group.
Do group loot.
???
Stop bitching.

[CptEgo]

5 instances - 1 drop.
Some bosses seem to have no drops, people cant greed/pass on items I need and they dont want or already have.
Sorry but not gonna spend 4 days tanking normals for nothing. trying 2 get to ilvl610...

It was a promising expansion Blizz, shame I paid for 2 months

Are you fucking kidding me? You know, back when WoW was hard, you could go on 20 6-hour raids and get nothing for it. When you finally got an upgrade, it fucking meant something. Please go away.

[Ghostile]

back when WoW was hard

Easiest way to invalidate any argument.

[CptEgo]

Easiest way to invalidate any argument.

I'm guessing you didn't play WoW in 2004. Back when you had to gather 40 people for a raid and bosses only dropped spec-specific items. You're a fire mage? Too bad, this item is for Frost mages, goodbye. When the entire raid had to get fire resistance gear for one single boss. When taking down a boss could take 3-4 resets. Weeks and months of wiping, and when the boss finally fucking died, you didn't get anything. And the guy who got an item spend all his DKP on that item meaning that he wouldn't be able to buy anything for weeks to come after. And no raid/dungeon finder ofcourse. So don't tell me my argument is invalid, you're probably 19 years old and don't know fucking shit.

[The Kao]

5 instances - 1 drop.
Some bosses seem to have no drops, people cant greed/pass on items I need and they dont want or already have.
Sorry but not gonna spend 4 days tanking normals for nothing. trying 2 get to ilvl610...

It was a promising expansion Blizz, shame I paid for 2 months

A) Your chances of getting an upgrade are by no means better with the normal loot system. It's easily possible to run 5 dungeons and see only drops for other classes / specs, or have someone else roll your piece away.

B) That's what you get for ninjaing items in past expansions. People cried about it, Blizzard reacted. We've had it coming.

[Deleted]

If you can't take it that it takes a long time then get out, that's how the early expansions were and that's how it's supposed to be. Not some shitty "Let's get all gear in a half a dungeon" stuff. It's supposed to be sort of a grind, just be happy you can do as many heroics as you want per day instead of one like in the past.

[Deleted]

Don't like the System? Make a premade group and change the loot to group loot. /problem solved

[Wyattbw09]

5 instances - 1 drop.
Some bosses seem to have no drops, people cant greed/pass on items I need and they dont want or already have.
Sorry but not gonna spend 4 days tanking normals for nothing. trying 2 get to ilvl610...

It was a promising expansion Blizz, shame I paid for 2 months

Oddly, enough if you go what you wanted, then two months later you would be complaining about how you did everything in a month and a half and you are quitting.

[Asmekiel]

Just make it so you can trade items with the rest of the group.

[snaxattax]

personal loot has the possibility to drop more total loot, but you can't trade it. my guild ran personal loot when we were just starting and literally any drop was insta-equip anyway - we averaged about 1.5 items per boss. nowadays, when we're just doing them for the occasional trinket, or to help gear someone who was tardy to the party, we run party loot to funnel gear to that person.

[Comp]

No, it's not.

[Deja Thoris]

I'm guessing you didn't play WoW in 2004. Back when you had to gather 40 people for a raid and bosses only dropped spec-specific items. You're a fire mage? Too bad, this item is for Frost mages, goodbye. When the entire raid had to get fire resistance gear for one single boss. When taking down a boss could take 3-4 resets. Weeks and months of wiping, and when the boss finally fucking died, you didn't get anything. And the guy who got an item spend all his DKP on that item meaning that he wouldn't be able to buy anything for weeks to come after. And no raid/dungeon finder ofcourse. So don't tell me my argument is invalid, you're probably 19 years old and don't know fucking shit.

Inconvenient doesn't mean hard. Drop the aggro. To say a 10 year old boss that had 2 mechanics was hard is retarded.

[Deleted]

I'm guessing you didn't play WoW in 2004. Back when you had to gather 40 people for a raid and bosses only dropped spec-specific items. You're a fire mage? Too bad, this item is for Frost mages, goodbye. When the entire raid had to get fire resistance gear for one single boss. When taking down a boss could take 3-4 resets. Weeks and months of wiping, and when the boss finally fucking died, you didn't get anything. And the guy who got an item spend all his DKP on that item meaning that he wouldn't be able to buy anything for weeks to come after. And no raid/dungeon finder ofcourse. So don't tell me my argument is invalid, you're probably 19 years old and don't know fucking shit.

Badly tuned droprates doesn't mean that it's hard. Killing a boss 100 times isn't more difficult than killing it 10 times. You must be confusing the meaning of the word.

[hashtags]

Well I don't know how I feel about this loot system. I am not even sure if there is any unlucky streak protection. But what sucks is when we kill a boss and nobody gets anything. That just kills any enthusiasm of continue running dungeons.

[sinayion]

The loot system is much better now, no need to complain. We finally have personal loot in PUGs... Don't cry to Blizz to make them change this!