Kinda sucks I'll never have Blackhand's hammer

[JustRob]

Apparently Blizzard has decided that generic, recycled weapon models are more than enough for lowly LFR trash like me. Kinda sucks. At least in SoO I had a chance to get Xal'atoh... Really hard to get motivated for LFR now when there's really no reward other than experiencing the raid and gaining some item lvls.

[blackblade]

Apparently Blizzard has decided that generic, recycled weapon models are more than enough for lowly LFR trash like me. Kinda sucks. At least in SoO I had a chance to get Xal'atoh... Really hard to get motivated for LFR now when there's really no reward other than experiencing the raid and gaining some item lvls.

I hear ya. If only there was a tool, kinda like LFR, that let you experience slightly harder content where you're expected to contribute a little more effort but get gear equivalent to normal/heroic.

[Xyanide]

Apparently Blizzard has decided that generic, recycled weapon models are more than enough for lowly LFR trash like me. Kinda sucks. At least in SoO I had a chance to get Xal'atoh... Really hard to get motivated for LFR now when there's really no reward other than experiencing the raid and gaining some item lvls.

why do you need 'motivation' to do LFR? Blizzard is only doing to LFR what they originally wanted it to be, a place for you to experience the raid without having to join an actual raid group, I see no problems here

[JustRob]

why do you need 'motivation' to do LFR? Blizzard is only doing to LFR what they originally wanted it to be, a place for you to experience the raid without having to join an actual raid group, I see no problems here

Cuz for me, aside from LFR there is no endgame. I have no desire to join a raiding guild and keep myself to strict raiding schedules and all the shit that comes with it. I just wanna queue up, do a raid with people I don't have to socialize with much, collect my loot and leave. But now there's little reason to do it more than two or three times, since all the cool weapons are inaccessible.

[Triggers]

Sorry, you might actually have to try to get cool items. I know, it's strange.

[lightofdawn]

LFR is a place for people that are either not good enough to do real raids, or dont have time. if you really want the hammer, im sure you could pay a guild for a carry later in the expansion... so in theory you'll just get it later.

also, being someone who raids at all difficulties, i'm kind of happy that there's going to be a distinguishable downside to not keeping up to date on raids, but if all you can do is LFR, then it's whatever

i think iconic weapons/tier sets should be reserved for higher difficulties, and i like how they're going about it

[Frolk]

Want cool shit?
Well, put in time and effort then, dont got both or either? Well, no cool shit for u then sorry

[Deleted]

I have no desire to join a raiding guild and keep myself to strict raiding schedules and all the shit that comes with it. I just wanna queue up, do a raid with people I don't have to socialize with much, collect my loot and leave.

So, you don't want to try. That's cool.

Effort is commeasurate with reward. No pain, no gain.

[Runeshear]

I probably wont get Guldan armor for my lock til the end of the expansion, we just get the cooler stuff later if we dont do the difficulties its on while current.

[blackblade]

Cuz for me, aside from LFR there is no endgame. I have no desire to join a raiding guild and keep myself to strict raiding schedules and all the shit that comes with it. I just wanna queue up, do a raid with people I don't have to socialize with much, collect my loot and leave. But now there's little reason to do it more than two or three times, since all the cool weapons are inaccessible.

So use the group finder. find a pug. get gear. learn strats. get better gear. clear instance. No schedule required. It'll take some attempts and you're probably not going to accomplish it in one try, but you can pug on your own schedule and don't have to worry about being expected to log in for raids 3 nights a week nor deal with guild drama bullshit (yay personal loot and bonus rolls.)

Lord forbid you might even have fun getting loot on the way.

LFR is a place for people that are either not good enough to do real raids, or dont have time. if you really want the hammer, im sure you could pay a guild for a carry later in the expansion... so in theory you'll just get it later.

Also somewhat viable. There'll also be groups going back for achieves etc.

[The One Percent]

Apparently Blizzard has decided that generic, recycled weapon models are more than enough for lowly LFR trash like me.

LFR is so you can experience the raid. You're fucking lucky you get any gear at all for it.

[JustRob]

So, you don't want to try. That's cool.

Effort is commeasurate with reward. No pain, no gain.

And the reward higher difficulty raiders got last expansion was better gear. Stats wise the LFR was in no way comparable to normal or HC, but at least we could get a lesser version of the cool looking stuff.

I don't see the need to take that away. You already get better gear than us for doing normal HC or mythic, what else do you want? Is it really so bad if we can have a crappier version of the tier set?

[InDecisive]

Just pug normal (what used to be flex). Find a decent group on the group finder once people have gotten to know the fights and are reasonably well geared, and then do it with them. Not hard.

[Grayjoy]

Cuz for me, aside from LFR there is no endgame. I have no desire to join a raiding guild and keep myself to strict raiding schedules and all the shit that comes with it. I just wanna queue up, do a raid with people I don't have to socialize with much, collect my loot and leave. But now there's little reason to do it more than two or three times, since all the cool weapons are inaccessible.

Just PUG it dude, finding a normal (flex) group takes less time than LFR. Get over it.

[Last Starfighter]

Cuz for me, aside from LFR there is no endgame. I have no desire to join a raiding guild and keep myself to strict raiding schedules and all the shit that comes with it. I just wanna queue up, do a raid with people I don't have to socialize with much, collect my loot and leave. But now there's little reason to do it more than two or three times, since all the cool weapons are inaccessible.

This is an excuse. Yesterday, day one there were groups all over the raid finder. Day one for normals. The same will happen when brf opens. The weps are easily accesible with little time investment. The game requires little time anymore outside off the highest difficulties.

If you want to not be social in an mmo, then go ahead, but don't make excuses

[madmanx]

It is fine to not want to bother with raiding, I haven't for 5+ years.

.....but please don't come and bitch about it.

Your 15 bucks a month buys you unlimited play time, it does not buy you free range of the loot table.

[Buxton McGraff]

I really want a Ferrari but I'm only willing to pay for a Subaru.

It's not fair, Ferrari's should be made cheaper so the average joe like myself can buy them and make them not special anymore.

[FerDeHerd]

And the reward higher difficulty raiders got last expansion was better gear. Stats wise the LFR was in no way comparable to normal or HC, but at least we could get a lesser version of the cool looking stuff.

I don't see the need to take that away. You already get better gear than us for doing normal HC or mythic, what else do you want? Is it really so bad if we can have a crappier version of the tier set?

The point is that you have no need for a tier-set bonus or better gear if you aren't planning to push yourself to try harder content. The only reason to get better gear is so you can try taking on harder obstacles; If all you want is to get gear so you can feel proud while doing your Garrison missions then you really have no need for anything other than questing greens.

[MonsieuRoberts]

Why consign yourself to LFR when you want things that come from higher difficulties? Find a group in Trade and bam, you can have one. Normal isn't that much of a difference in difficulty, unless you're one of those people in LFR that just auto-attacks.

[JustRob]

I really want a Ferrari but I'm only willing to pay for a Subaru.

It's not fair, Ferrari's should be made cheaper so the average joe like myself can buy them and make them not special anymore.

That comparison makes no sense. You and I pay the same amount of money for this. So what would be an accurate comparison: We both pay the same amount of money, but you get a Ferrari and I get a Subaru.