Fire Verse Frost. Post patch

[kritikal1224]

What you guys think about Fire verse Frost post changes.

Frost with 25% buff to frostbolt i seam to do about 25k dps. Thats what 655 ilvl
Fire i have not tried optimized yet. What you guys thinking on that changes will you go fire now for most fights for MS? I see most people are saying Fire/Arcane cause of shared stats. I just dont think i could see my self going Arcane but for Butcher. So not sure. Let me know what you guys think please.

[Nico3337]

I like Fire the best, so I play fire now... doing around 16-20k dps on fights, which is what I did with frost pre patch... I have around 35% crit, so I guess once that numbers goes even Higher it will pull ahead of frost

[Deleted]

I will be staying Frost for the majority of Highmaul progress and transition in to Arcane with offspec Fire for Blackrock.

The 665 sims on SimC's homepage use Normal Blackrock gear, you should take fire's DPS value with a pinch of salt.

[LocNess]

Currently it is:

ST - Arcane > Frost >> Fire

With Arcane falling behind with movement

Cleave - Frost ~= Fire > Arcane

Fire might surprass Frost due to reliability of Cleave in comparison to Splitting Ice

AoE - Fire >>> Frost > Arcane

Fire is god tier.

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Currently it is:

ST - Arcane > Frost >> Fire

With Arcane falling behind with movement

Cleave - Frost ~= Fire > Arcane

Fire might surprass Frost due to reliability of Cleave in comparison to Splitting Ice

AoE - Fire >>> Frost > Arcane

Fire is god tier.

This does not take in to account your current gear.

Here's the sim for, with my gear:



The sim swaps all my gems and enchants to the best for Arcane too, I'm not fudging the numbers. I think Arcane will perform very well for the Butcher, but the other fights are quite movement intensive so I still see frost being top during progress.

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This does not take in to account your current gear.

Here's the sim for, with my gear:



The sim swaps all my gems and enchants to the best for Arcane too, I'm not fudging the numbers. I think Arcane will perform very well for the Butcher, but the other fights are quite movement intensive so I still see frost being top during progress.

Well yeah.. if you're in all frost gear and enchants..

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Well yeah.. if you're in all frost gear and enchants..

Read my post again.

[nickseng]

Read my post again.

To be fair, you only swapped gems and enchants, and not gear. I'd imagine that totals 300 secondaries, at most?

Most of your gear will still be optimized for frost, which means it won't have a lot of mastery.

[Wrathorian]

Ill probably be playing Frost since I have 30% multistrike just from heroic dungeons and 2 items from garrison invasions. Once I get more crit on my gear, Ill be switching to Fire fulltime. Right now, Im planning to go fire for AoE and Cleave fights.

[Frost1129]

To be fair, you only swapped gems and enchants, and not gear. I'd imagine that totals 300 secondaries, at most?

Most of your gear will still be optimized for frost, which means it won't have a lot of mastery.

Exactly what fire gear do you think exists in highmaul?

[Deleted]

fire because it's the coolest spec

[nickseng]

Exactly what fire gear do you think exists in highmaul?

I .... did not realize the extent that Fire was screwed, gear wise, in Highmaul.

You learn something new everyday, I guess.

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I .... did not realize the extent that Fire was screwed, gear wise, in Highmaul.

You learn something new everyday, I guess.

And he was simming against arcane, which unsurprisingly has to use the same gear as frost, since there is only one item per slot (trash drops aside). Right now I don't see why anyone would bother touching either fire or arcane. Good luck doing DPS as fire without getting even two pyro crits before combustion.