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    What would you do if they increased CD of Human racial EMFH to 2.5m?

    Would that be enough to warrant a PvP trinket or would the extra 30 seconds not be worth the stat loss of using the PvP trinket?
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    Even better. EMFH is no longer usable in PvP combat. OR make it so the proc trink and damage trink can not be equipped at the same time.

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    The problem with this is if you decide to take the trinket instead then you get absolutely nothing out of racials whereas other race's have at least some sort of half-useful option you could use instead.

    Just take EMFH out, or make it baseline for everyone (usable only in PvP perhaps) and give Humans something else more in line with WotF. ie: They could get a disorient/poly break or something that triggers a 30s cooldown on your trinket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krimson View Post
    The problem with this is if you decide to take the trinket instead then you get absolutely nothing out of racials.
    That's not true at all. The racial is still extremely useful for lots of PvE situations where you won't be using the PvP trinket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sengura View Post
    That's not true at all. The racial is still extremely useful for lots of PvE situations where you won't be using the PvP trinket.
    That's why the top guilds are horde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nykolas View Post
    Even better. EMFH is no longer usable in PvP combat. OR make it so the proc trink and damage trink can not be equipped at the same time.
    breaking a racial =/= fixing it.

    2.5.. i actually like that - that makes it worth a thought, but still good. i would use it as dps... healers would be thinking twice though. like Krimson said there would need a fail safe for people who didnt want that compremise... 'when medallion is equip'd EMFH becomes xyz instead..' <- that seems like more work than bliz would put into a racial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nykolas View Post
    Even better. EMFH is no longer usable in PvP combat. OR make it so the proc trink and damage trink can not be equipped at the same time.
    sure as long as blood fury works the same way.2 dps trinkets on =bang blood fury does not give AP! blood fury is op'ed in pve and needs to be nerfed!

    then in pvp make blood fury not work with ap trinkets! sounds good so far!

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    I'd go Dwarf or Gnome.

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    Human racial would be useless. They would have to give us something else to compensate, like 10% mastery or crit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meathead View Post
    sure as long as blood fury works the same way.2 dps trinkets on =bang blood fury does not give AP! blood fury is op'ed in pve and needs to be nerfed!

    then in pvp make blood fury not work with ap trinkets! sounds good so far!
    Effects reduced by half in pvp combat.... fixed.

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    Disable racials in Arena and Rbg = fixed ... it is not only EMFH problem also stealth detect passive ............. Human rogue > Any Horde rogue; Gnome Warrior (remove roots, freez etc racial) > Orc racial (useless if you cant come to target)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hordeisstillworst View Post
    also stealth detect passive ............. Human rogue > Any Horde rogue
    wasnt this removed like 2 expansions ago, its just +rep, emfh and versality bonus now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krimson View Post
    Just take EMFH out, or make it baseline for everyone (usable only in PvP perhaps).
    I'd like this, make it usable everywhere and then design PvE raids with the fact that everyone has a trinket in mind. Would actually make raiding a lot more fun if boss fights incorporated a CC break in them.


    As for the change. If it's 2.5 minutes it's completely useless. But honestly, the damage increase isn't as big as people seem to think it is. Yes, it's a good increase, but it's not as broken as people think. Besides, it's only good for a couple of classes. Warriors/Rogues are better off as Gnome, and any healer is better off as Dwarf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesftw View Post
    wasnt this removed like 2 expansions ago, its just +rep, emfh and versality bonus now.
    he is just trying to display his bias

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    how can you still cry about the human racial when the trinket on use are so worthless, if there was a racial to nerf atm it would be the dwarf one, the human one isn't even good anymore

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    Then humans would have no racial for pvp as everyone would use trinkets. EMFH would have to be replaced with something else, not just increasing its cd which will make it absolete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Word View Post
    Then humans would have no racial for pvp as everyone would use trinkets. EMFH would have to be replaced with something else, not just increasing its cd which will make it absolete.
    Just give it the WoTF treatment only slightly stronger given its ALL forms of CC, This effect shares a 60 sec cooldown with other similar effects. Running with a trinket would be very strong as you have a trinket every 60 seconds instead of 120 seconds for the first and then your next at 90 seconds. Although that may be to strong.

    Other options you could require a CC break trinket for the 2 set bonus or a reduced damage reduction for not using one to like 5% instead of 10%
    Last edited by Reveries1; 2014-12-23 at 07:44 PM.

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    If they increased CD of Human racial EMFH to 2.5m I would do nothing.
    Thanks for axing.
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    You guys trolling? EMFH is mediocre right now. DPS-Trinkets got nerfed.

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    Dps trinkets are still dps trinkets and u know, there are those mythic raiders that might be human

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