For all the people in this topic defending this kind of behavior in one way or another, and advocating doing it yourselves, I never, ever, ever want to see you arguing for the removal of things like LFR, or removing loot from LFR, or whatever. You're basically one of the direct causes for it's existence. So... thanks, I suppose!
Because the leaders with patience are running guild raids.
i wouldn't care one bit if LFR was removed. Nor would i care if it stays I don't consider LFR fun or engaging and certainly not end game. That being said, pick up group, comes in all flavors, like guilds when you think about it.
There is the F&F pick up, that will get a few boss down and not really care about progression, and there is the competitive pick, that will try to get a maximum of boss down in a night, with stricter entry conditions and higher minimal performance needed.
one may said it's a good thing that wow cater to different type of player, right?