1. #1

    LnL procs during Barrage...

    Either at beginning, middle, or end of barrage, is it worth cancelling for explosive shot? Also, is my /stopcasting macro's decreasing my dps? They are all /stopcasting /stopcasting. I'm 656 with a 630 engy gun, and I don't seem to hit even close to my sim. Then again, split second delays do add up I suppose, would those split seconds be the difference from a 24k sim to 21.9k actual performance?

  2. #2
    what are you using a /stopcasting macro on? the only things that you should use /stopcasting on is deterrence/disengage/countershot imo. azor doesnt even have barrage in single target SV dps rotation, so unless you are using it on multi-target dont use it, and if you are using barrage on multi-target it has priority so you wouldnt want to cancel it even for lnl

  3. #3
    I'm using it with steady focus, thats what icy-veins says right now, even for single target... i was under the impression it was updated by azor, is there a more current source, I always feel like I'm behind on these things :\. Also, the /stopcasting is bad then? I guess its an old habit, is it not necessary these days?

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Phweak View Post
    I'm using it with steady focus, thats what icy-veins says right now, even for single target... i was under the impression it was updated by azor, is there a more current source, I always feel like I'm behind on these things :\. Also, the /stopcasting is bad then? I guess its an old habit, is it not necessary these days?
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  5. #5
    /stopcasting is a really bad idea to add it to your instant shots because:

    1. it fucks with your autoshots, often cancelling the next autoshot, which is a very small dps loss but it adds up during a long fight and cause you to lose like 1k. I know, I was doing just that and when I removed /stopcasting from all my instants, my dps increased by 1k.

    2. it often happens that your sig shot is like 1 sec away from coming off cd, so you start casting steady shot and when you see chimera/expl/kc is available you instantly press it and cancel that steady shot, and by cancelling it you just got 1-2 sec of 0 damage that steady shot could have helped if you didn't cancel it. It also adds up and makes you lose dps over a long fight.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Phweak View Post
    I'm using it with steady focus, thats what icy-veins says right now, even for single target... i was under the impression it was updated by azor, is there a more current source, I always feel like I'm behind on these things :\. Also, the /stopcasting is bad then? I guess its an old habit, is it not necessary these days?
    Wait, what are you stop casting?
    I don't see anything about stopcasting on the survival guides on icy-veins!

    You shouldn't be using barrage single target. If you are hitting multiple targets, then you should certainly not stop casting it.

  7. #7
    Well the nature of research on these things is pretty reliable in that it changes, I was just going off the information that was readily available (and easy to read). This is Icy-veins current info on the Tier 6 Talents as of 1/4/2015. At the time I was using Steady Focus w/ Focusing shot.

    To answer the other question, I had stopcasting on all the instants with high priority ie Black Arrow and Explosive. During the launch it was recommended that hitting Chimeara off CD was a greater priority than finishing Steady Shot. So I kept with that mentality when I switched to survival as well. It is confirmed though that just using the default spell will net greater results even if it means missing a CD due to cobra shot/focusing shot?

    Just an FYI though, I switched to ToTH, and Lone Wolf and seeing if that keeps my performance up for fights like Imperator, etc.

  8. #8
    Azor has said in his mmo-c thread (linked by a previous poster above ) that he has submitted updated to icy-veins but it takes days for them to update. Check in that thread regularly for updates and general discussion.

  9. #9
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    don't use /stopcasting bro

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