Why hasn't Japan banned child-porn comics?

[Deleted]

I am really quite shocked and saddened that there are people on these forums that would consider it ok to create indecent images of children in any form.
The creation of this type of material should sicken any right minded individual, for those that seek out this type of media in an effort to suppress urges they have, then they should be seeking professional medical help, Not using anime or any other art form to get a release.

[Jester Joe]

Good thing I don't believe in banning those either.

I know, that's why I added in the "not to anyone specifically"

I am really quite shocked and saddened that there are people on these forums that would consider it ok to create indecent images of children in any form.
The creation of this type of material should sicken any right minded individual, for those that seek out this type of media in an effort to suppress urges they have, then they should be seeking professional medical help, Not using anime or any other art form to get a release.

Someone hasn't read Berserk.

[WskyDK]

I am really quite shocked and saddened that there are people on these forums that would consider it ok to create indecent images of children in any form.
The creation of this type of material should sicken any right minded individual, for those that seek out this type of media in an effort to suppress urges they have, then they should be seeking professional medical help, Not using anime or any other art form to get a release.

Acting upon the urges to harm a child sickens me. Ink on a page does not.

[stumpy]

I am really quite shocked and saddened that there are people on these forums that would consider it ok to create indecent images of children in any form.
The creation of this type of material should sicken any right minded individual, for those that seek out this type of media in an effort to suppress urges they have, then they should be seeking professional medical help, Not using anime or any other art form to get a release.

Again, I'm not sure what makes this so much worse than any other drawing of "immoral" behavior.

[Deleted]

I am really quite shocked and saddened that there are people on these forums that would consider it ok to create indecent images of people using drugs.
The creation of this type of material should sicken any right minded individual, for those that seek out this type of media in an effort to suppress urges they have, then they should be seeking professional medical help, Not using a movie or any other art form to get a release.

FTFY
let's ban trainspotting !

[Themius]

I am really quite shocked and saddened that there are people on these forums that would consider it ok to create indecent images of children in any form.
The creation of this type of material should sicken any right minded individual, for those that seek out this type of media in an effort to suppress urges they have, then they should be seeking professional medical help, Not using anime or any other art form to get a release.

What is your alternative? Cull pedophiles? Professional help doesn't = suddenly not a pedophile. It's about as logical as any type of conversion therapy. It doesn't work.

[endersblade]

Wow. I actually expected this to be a thread full of pitch forks and torches. I am pleasantly surprised. Thank you MMO-C, you have restored a little bit of faith in humanity for me.

I have seen this stuff before, I'm more or less indifferent. I have no interest in it. But as others have said, I'd much rather have people jerking it to hentai loli than going after real kids. Besides, there are far, far worse things on the internet than make-believe children getting boinked. But nobody seems to be railing to get those taken down and banned.

Why is it always something to do with kids? What is it about kids that make people get so defensive and flip out? It's perfectly alright to do things to people once they turn 18, because then they're considered adaulta and we don't care about adults. But if they're so much as a day away from hitting 18, holy fucking hell look out. Western culture makes me giggle sometimes.

[Zantos]

Actually if it's indistinguishable from a real photograph that would be fantastic because they could completely get their fix with no children being harmed in the process.

.

At that point, it may be argued that a real kid was used as the model

[Shahad]

At that point, it may be argued that a real kid was used as the model

Or imagination of one. You can't make imagination illegal. Or condemn it morally.

[Deleted]

What is your alternative? Cull pedophiles? Professional help doesn't = suddenly not a pedophile. It's about as logical as any type of conversion therapy. It doesn't work.

And giving them the media to fuel there desires works how ? sooner or later they will have had enough of pictures or anime videos and want to act out in real life.

[stumpy]

What is your alternative? Cull pedophiles? Professional help doesn't = suddenly not a pedophile. It's about as logical as any type of conversion therapy. It doesn't work.

Honestly I think "we have to keep this to protect the children!" is missing the larger issue of ruling that fictional events and characters are equivalent to real ones.

[Elegiac]

And giving them the media to fuel there desires works how ? sooner or later they will have had enough of pictures or anime videos and want to act out in real life.

And your evidence to support this is....what?

Especially considering that despite increasingly sexualized and violent media the rate of violent crime and of sexual assault have both decreased.

[Shahad]

And giving them the media to fuel there desires works how ? sooner or later they will have had enough of pictures or anime videos and want to act out in real life.

I watch porn. All kinds of porn. I have for many years. Last I checked, I haven't raped anyone. What exactly makes you think a pedophile would because he discovered loli hentai? It seems to me he's more likely to rape if he doesn't get a release.

[Themius]

And giving them the media to fuel there desires works how ? sooner or later they will have had enough of pictures or anime videos and want to act out in real life.

Then why is that relationship not seen? Why was it instead seen that pedophiles can get off on images. Also people watch rape porn, doesn't mean they go out and rape people.

[Aqua]

No it shouldn't be banned, it's too slippery a slope to walk down. And as an artist I'd like to not get in trouble for drawing what's asked of me, (even if what I draw isn't even close to this, but like I said, slippery slope)

I find that kind of art distasteful myself, but I do not want it banned. As long as no one is harmed in it's production then it should be allowed. Drawn Art is not an 'enabler'. Physical offenders and those allowing such actions should take responsibility for their actions and pedophilia is illegal and wrong.

Dragging people who simply draw or look at these images into the equation is a tad much.

[stumpy]

The idea that authors of a work (or the work itself) are accountable for what anybody goes out and does after viewing it is also a pretty dangerous precedent to set.

[Deleted]

And your evidence to support this is....what?
Especially considering that despite increasingly sexualized and violent media the rate of violent crime and of sexual assault have both decreased.

I have no evidence, but it is quite obvious that if someone likes to have sex with children, and they are given access to material that shows this happening, that if given the opportunity they could and probably have used this material to introduce the idea to a child.

[endersblade]

And giving them the media to fuel there desires works how ? sooner or later they will have had enough of pictures or anime videos and want to act out in real life.

Now replace "pedophile" with ANY OTHER socially unacceptable stigma, and ask that again. These are mental issues that are NOT fixable. You can't make a pedo stop liking kids anymore than you could make a lesbian stop liking women. 'Fueling' them with media is definitely the lesser of two evils, is it not? You seem to be under the impression that all pedos will get tired of fapping to pics and want the real thing. Why? Why are you overgeneralizing like that? If that was the case, do you realize just how many cases we'd have on our hands? If it hasn't happened yet, why would it happen later? Being a pedo isn't a new thing.

Edit: just to cover myself, I'm not saying being gay is bad. I was just using it as a sexual preference example.

[Elegiac]

I have no evidence, but it is quite obvious that if someone likes to have sex with children, and they are given access to material that shows this happening, that if given the opportunity they could and probably have used this material to introduce the idea to a child.

Which, if it were actually true, would mean that children don't get raped because child pornography is illegal.

[Shahad]

I have no evidence, but it is quite obvious that if someone likes to have sex with children, and they are given access to material that shows this happening, that if given the opportunity they could and probably have used this material to introduce the idea to a child.

No, it's not obvious actually. Else this relationship would be documented somewhere.