[HELP] *Official* "Fix My Monk" Thread

[Deleted]

Hey there.

We are a casual raiding guild currently sitting on 5/10 mythic, we have a small roster and actually issues getting enuf ppl for our team.
We got quite alot of people underperforming in our guild, but cant really replace them due to the lack of people..
Therefor we wanna try to help our raiders to improve there performence, so we can use them on the longer run.

Our current Windwalker monk rerolled 3 months ago, but havent gotten better so far.
Ive been trying to go thro logs to figure out whats his doing wrong, but since i got 0 exp at monks i want to give it a shot in here, since people are always nice at helping.

Logs will be linked below.. Thanks alot!

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...935827/latest/

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/guilds/4637

[intrinsc]

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...misteez/simple
Spec: Mistweaver
Combat Log Parse (WoL/WCL): https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/12ZyN8zXG9CanQYD/

This is not for me, but rather for a raider in my guild. She is thinking about main switching to a mistweaver from a discipline priest because of guild needs and would like someone that has more experience than her track down some issues with her mistweaving healing. She has talked to multiple players of the spec and gone over priorities and situations, talents, glyphs, etc, but to no avail. Someone in a 10/10 M guild did point out she had been using a Cudgel of Trials from Gruul up until the last 2 attempts of Iron Maidens in the provided parse. She now has a 645 crafted staff, but weren't able to get many more attempts in afterwards due to frustration.

She has told me that she has a lot of fun playing it, but the low HPS is wearing her down because she's used to more than that and feels like she's missing something/wants to be more helpful to the raids. I'm doing this on her behalf and she will read/respond to any feedback if it's provided. Thank you.

EDIT: If you read this before she wakes up I have made her and mailed her all multistrike enchants and, shadownmoon for staff, and a multistrike taladite for bracers.

[Afterwind]

Hey guys,

I recently rerolled to play a mistweaver monk for my guild. I'm struggling to keep up with the other healers in my guild, so I was wondering if you could help me out.

I know for sure I need to use expel harm more often to generate Chi. Other than that, what do you see right off hand that I could improve upon? Thanks.

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Dissar/simple

Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...%240&source=16

[Djriff]

Hi guys. This is for one of my guildies. Trying to figure out what he's doing wrong.

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Gusfu/advanced
Spec: WW
Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=16

[Babylonius]

Hi guys. This is for one of my guildies. Trying to figure out what he's doing wrong.

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Gusfu/advanced
Spec: WW
Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=16

Well first I'm going to complain that he has 4 BiS Mythic pieces without killing any Mythic bosses.

He should change one of his weapon enchants to Warsong, having the same enchant on both weapons isn't optimal. His casts are a little low, he has half the possible casts of Fists of Fury, missed two casts of Serenity, and a few here and there of the others. He didnt use SEF after Beastlord dismounted the third mount.

Apart from that, his DPS is low because he's not padding, he's focusing on single target, which I'd argue is what he should be doing on progression. He's 5th on damage to Beastlord and top 3 or 1st on the mounts. He seems to be the only one doing so as your Boomkin doesn't seem to know there are other targets beyond the spears. I don't think you need 9 of your 13 DPS dropping what they're doing for Pack Beasts, seems a bit overkill.

[SimonVonLagMaat]

After maining a prot warrior since Late Vanilla I've come to the dark side that is Monk tanking. The warrior Pinkanator-Zuluhed vs The Monk Fistolagmaat-zuluhed

Currently, I'm seeing better results with the monk, (better mitigation/healing with similar damage) even with the ilvl difference. (I would post a log link, but I can't due to my lack of posts, Only Death - Zuluhed Tuesday the 28th (warrior) vs Tuesday the 5th (monk)
I'm wondering if there is anything overt that I am doing wrong. That could boost the difference even further.
Thanks in advance.

[vulena]

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...misteez/simple
Spec: Mistweaver
Combat Log Parse (WoL/WCL): https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/12ZyN8zXG9CanQYD/

Iron Maidens is not our best fight, with so little damage until 20%, but:
- 19 Uplifts + 0 EM is not a lot. Obviously it's going to be used more heavily by the end, but A) those 19 were spread throughout the fight and barely used at the end and B) there's no EM usage at all either, so there's at least some wasted Chi that isn't getting used/is being wasted. There were also only 6 Expel Harms used (our cheapest chi generator) out of a possible 24. Generally, they're not building/spending Chi as well as they could.
- No Revival, which can definitely be used during the last 20%.
- Celerity would let them get more Chi Torpedos in than Tiger's Lust. But given how little healing they did with CT and given that they do not have enough spirit for RJW usage, I might suggest going Xuen instead for this specific fight. Xuen is garbage unless it can cleave to 3+ targets, so Maidens is a rare fight where it's not completely abysmal. I can't imagine it would do LESS than 35k total healing.
- Weapon stats should be rerolled to get rid of mastery. That's just ridiculous. Literally any two stats would be better than something + mastery.
- Has nearly no static spirit, despite it being BY FAR our best stat (more than Int). Has it on a total of... two pieces? Incredibly low for someone who isn't fistweaving (which they are obviously not).

Neither monk will ever get close to disc/holy pally levels on that fight, but there's a huge amount of room for improvement in both terms of "rotation" (making sure Chi isn't getting wasted, generating more chi cheaply), knowing the spec (more static spirit, less mastery) and healing the last 20% for sure (far more Uplifts, actually use Revival). I'd suggest they fistweave through the first 80% of the fight as well, but it sounds like they should get mistweaving under control first.

[Djriff]

Well first I'm going to complain that he has 4 BiS Mythic pieces without killing any Mythic bosses.

He should change one of his weapon enchants to Warsong, having the same enchant on both weapons isn't optimal. His casts are a little low, he has half the possible casts of Fists of Fury, missed two casts of Serenity, and a few here and there of the others. He didnt use SEF after Beastlord dismounted the third mount.

Apart from that, his DPS is low because he's not padding, he's focusing on single target, which I'd argue is what he should be doing on progression. He's 5th on damage to Beastlord and top 3 or 1st on the mounts. He seems to be the only one doing so as your Boomkin doesn't seem to know there are other targets beyond the spears. I don't think you need 9 of your 13 DPS dropping what they're doing for Pack Beasts, seems a bit overkill.

Alriighty, I'll pass the advice along. Thanks a bunch. Most of our DPS are just cleaving for the pack beasts, I don't think we're intentionally dropping what we're doing to go for the pack beasts. Boomy was told specifically to focus spears, but his dmg seems a lil low to me, not sure how to boomy tbh.

[Afterwind]

Hey guys,

I recently rerolled to play a mistweaver monk for my guild. I'm struggling to keep up with the other healers in my guild, so I was wondering if you could help me out.

I know for sure I need to use expel harm more often to generate Chi. Other than that, what do you see right off hand that I could improve upon? Thanks.

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Dissar/simple

Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...%240&source=16

Anyone have anything that can help me out? Thanks

[Djriff]

Anyone have anything that can help me out? Thanks

You logged out in WW gear. I can't really give advice otherwise. Your healing on BF seems pretty low though.

[Ziktator]

Anyone have anything that can help me out? Thanks

Hello. I took a quick look. You are correct in saying that you need to use Expel Harm more. On the Blast Furnace kill that lasted 9m38s you used it 12 times. You could have used it three times as much. As a result of this, power strikes only gave you 17 chi, where it could have given you 39. You use Revival several times, which is needed if you want to maximize your hps. Your renewing mist usage seems fine - you could probably have gotten more value out of both Chi Burst and Chi Torpedo, though.

The main issue I see, however, is that you have four healers for 12 players. With that many healers, and two of them being absorb healers, there is not enough damage to heal through. And what little healing is required is already satisfied by the holy paladin and disc priest.

[Afterwind]

Hello. I took a quick look. You are correct in saying that you need to use Expel Harm more. On the Blast Furnace kill that lasted 9m38s you used it 12 times. You could have used it three times as much. As a result of this, power strikes only gave you 17 chi, where it could have given you 39. You use Revival several times, which is needed if you want to maximize your hps. Your renewing mist usage seems fine - you could probably have gotten more value out of both Chi Burst and Chi Torpedo, though.

The main issue I see, however, is that you have four healers for 12 players. With that many healers, and two of them being absorb healers, there is not enough damage to heal through. And what little healing is required is already satisfied by the holy paladin and disc priest.

Thanks for the tips. If I use expel harm and nobody needs heals at that moment in time, what do you do to dump your Chi? Granted like you said, there's not a lot of healing to be done, but I feel as if I sit with full Chi for an extended period of time, its very wastefull. In our guild's situation, with the RL not wanting to 3 heal stuff, would it just be more beneficial for me to fistweave to dump chi?

[Ziktator]

Thanks for the tips. If I use expel harm and nobody needs heals at that moment in time, what do you do to dump your Chi? Granted like you said, there's not a lot of healing to be done, but I feel as if I sit with full Chi for an extended period of time, its very wastefull. In our guild's situation, with the RL not wanting to 3 heal stuff, would it just be more beneficial for me to fistweave to dump chi?

Fistweaving is a very good alternative if there is nothing much to heal. The heal is smart, so you will get quite a bit of useful healing done. Otherwise, if there is no raid damage incoming soon, you could always throw Enveloping Mists on a tank to get some use out of your chi. Especially if you can EH and ReM up the chi again in short order. To maximize throughput you should always spend your chi and try to generate as much as you can.

[taylorwastaken]

Armory: us_battle_net/wow/en/character/area-52/Tofu/simple
Spec: Mistweaver
Combat Log Parse (WoL/WCL): warcraftlogs_com/reports/1AkLKJcyCZTYMXPa/#fight=22

I'm looking for some advice on what I'm doing wrong when healing. I am usually on the bottom of the healers in every fight. I've read multiple guides and I think I'm doing what I'm supposed to be but I just cant seem to keep up with the other healers. Thanks in advance!


It would not let me submit any links as my first post so I removed the URL tags and replaced . with _ I also removed the http I hope that is ok.

[Djriff]

Armory: us_battle_net/wow/en/character/area-52/Tofu/simple
Spec: Mistweaver
Combat Log Parse (WoL/WCL): warcraftlogs_com/reports/1AkLKJcyCZTYMXPa/#fight=22

I'm looking for some advice on what I'm doing wrong when healing. I am usually on the bottom of the healers in every fight. I've read multiple guides and I think I'm doing what I'm supposed to be but I just cant seem to keep up with the other healers. Thanks in advance!


It would not let me submit any links as my first post so I removed the URL tags and replaced . with _ I also removed the http I hope that is ok.

The links work great!

Here's some feedback for you.

Cast expel harm a lot more. On Kromog you only had 4 casts. You guys killed it in ~4 mins so you had a possible total of 16 expels harms.

Your uplift healing is really low and if you use expel harm more and generate more chi you'll be able to get more uplifts off which equals more healing.

Here's a link to my logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ling&source=13
You can use this as a comparison as we actually did all the same fights. Mind you i'm not the best MW but i do know what i'm doing.

Side note, your disc priest is pretty bad. They should be absolutely stomping everyone.

[Killface1]

I need some windwalker help, I'm really struggling with AoE. Hands on kromog, are lacking (although when our main DK is there it generally goes a bit smoother) for me, and beastlord and thogar are super rough for me.

I sadly don't have any beastlord logs from recent days, weeks, or even months, but here's todays kromog and thogar logs.

(Note that on kromog we tend to frequently miss dps checks on the pillars so I try to conserve some burst for those, but i'd still like to push the AoE a little more on it if possible)

I'm hanbrolo

Kromog
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...PMYzW#fight=14

Thogar:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

[Babylonius]

I need some windwalker help, I'm really struggling with AoE. Hands on kromog, are lacking (although when our main DK is there it generally goes a bit smoother) for me, and beastlord and thogar are super rough for me.

I sadly don't have any beastlord logs from recent days, weeks, or even months, but here's todays kromog and thogar logs.

(Note that on kromog we tend to frequently miss dps checks on the pillars so I try to conserve some burst for those, but i'd still like to push the AoE a little more on it if possible)

I'm hanbrolo

Kromog
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...PMYzW#fight=14

Thogar:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

On both kills, your Tiger Power uptime was a little low around 90%, could be near 100%. You also dont' seem to be hitting many hands with Chi Burst on Kromog, get your SEF up quickly and Chi Burst as soon as you can and aim for as many as you can hit, then RSK and spam SCK.

On Thogar if you want to do more AOE damage, then go Chi Explosion for massive cleave.

Generally in all areas, there are other classes that can do better at the AOE on these fights so if you're actually trying to quicken the fight, I wouldn't look to the windwalker first. However, if your just looking to see bigger numbers then work on aiming Chi Burst and using CX on Thogar.

[Deleted]

Hello, I cannot post links so please search my character manually: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Shinaj/simple
Spec: windwalker
World of logs https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QmWnVMKf8LbRCNrj

I recently switched guilds and start to dps as windwalker. Previously I mainly tank and heal (that is why I still Got tanking cloak and neck). I ty to do my best as dps with rotation but I think my dps should be higher with my current gear level. I know that monks arent best dps spec right now with almost no possibility to shine on fights like thorgar or beastmaster but anyway i should be doing more. Also Im łóżkiem for advice how to maximize my dps on Hans and franzok mythic

Edit looks like I can post links ������

[Hnikar]

My Windwalker Monk is Siar.

I know the big problem now. It's filled with a 1 minute hole of dodging stampers.

Armory: us[dot]battle.net/wow/en/character/korgath/Siar/advanced
Spec: Windwalker, ilvl 693 at kill
Logs: www[dot]warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZBCWHhJcYPKRvqwy#type=damage-done&source=2
More logs: www[dot]warcraftlogs.com/reports/3rmcx6DVbjCvw9a4#type=summary&boss=1693&wipes=1

I'm not happy with my Chi Explosion dps on Hans'gar and Franzok. I'm able to preform better with Chi Brew and Serenity. I'm not sure what the problem is.

[tablespecd]

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...esedish/simple
Spec: Windwalker
Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done Pull 16-19

Hey guys I'm back again and need some help on mythic maidens. I definitely don't have anywhere near the same amount of experience with chi explosion than I do with serenity which is why I'm coming here to see if I can be doing anything better. One thing to note is I feel like my haste is low for a Chi:Exp build, I find myself sitting around every now and then waiting for haste to regen.
I know I should be geming haste and changing enchants and all that from multistrike, but I didn't have time to as this is a friends guild and they're missing some players from the ban wave. Was invited and a few seconds later we were pulling so I had no time. Thanks once again.