Animals are responisble for their enviroment!

[Techno-Druid]

Watch these.











What do you think?

[gaymer77]

I believe all the animals in the Congo would beg to differ as well as all the animals in the country areas of the USA.

[Kaleredar]

Non-human animals don't have the capacity to realize their impacts. They're just doing what they do to survive, with no thought of long-term impact or goals.


If we're to call ourselves "better" than mere animals, then we actually need to act like it. Meaning we do realize the ramifications of our actions and know to act on what's best for the future.

[Vanyali]

Yes?

This has been known for a while now.

Difference is, as Kaleredar pointed out, they don't do it on purpose or realize they're doing it

[Techno-Druid]

I believe all the animals in the Congo would beg to differ as well as all the animals in the country areas of the USA.

Explain please

[Queen of Hamsters]

Animals do things because of instinct or in the case of the most intelligent non-human animals, what their environment provides. They are not "responsible" for anything other than their own survival. Humans are responsible for the planet although I feel like a couple of hamsters could manage it better and with less suffering.

[Kaleredar]

Animals do things because of instinct or in the case of the most intelligent non-human animals, what their environment provides. They are not "responsible" for anything other than their own survival. Humans are responsible for the planet although I feel like a couple of hamsters could manage it better and with less suffering.

Human beings are better at not eating their own children

[Senka]

I misread the title at first. I hope he's not saying they're responsible in the sense that they should take responsibility; I think he's just saying there's an unexpected, possibly unobserved, cause-and-effect of animals being in the areas that they're in.

This is interesting, but it makes me worry what major effect we could have when we do unnatural things. By unnatural, I mean things that would not have happened unless we made a conscious decision such as to reintroduce wolves to a brand new territory. We don't act on instinct like animals. The butterfly effect could be a scary thing.

[Kaleredar]

This is interesting, but it makes me worry what major effect we could have when we do unnatural things. By unnatural, I mean things that would not have happened unless we made a conscious decision such as to reintroduce wolves to a brand new territory. We don't act on instinct like animals. The butterfly effect could be a scary thing.

Introducing new species into areas where they hadn't previously been does cause major issues. Sometimes these are caused unintentionally, like with zebra mussels in the Great Lakes, and other times it's caused intentionally by people with a poor grasp of cause and effect, like with Cane Toads in Australia.

[Rhine101]

Human beings are better at not eating their own children

"Most" human beings

[boyzma]

Okay I tried...I really did...but what a crock of shit. I tried to watch the wolf one. Got as far as the english dude calling the herd of elk deer. They aren't deer for gods sake. But thats besides the point. If the guy doesn't know one species of animal from another who is he to be spewing this crap? I really suggest he watch Wild Kingdom or something. He's giving wolves a whole hell of a lot of credit where credit isn't due ( I watched the rest). It's called nature doing nature stuff not wolves coming in and "changing" everything. Get real...and they're ELK, get it right.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Human beings are better at not eating their own children

Yeah, we just rape our babies so that their insides cave in, or cut throats and blow people for worthly possessions or fairy tales or fun or whatever, treat each other like dirt even though we have the sense and knowledge of what it brings to the victims.

Hell, I'm sure that someplace, human beings have eaten their own children for some reason other than instinct...perhaps to please some "god" or crap like that.

[Kaleredar]

Yeah, we just rape our babies so that their insides cave in, or cut throats and blow people for worthly possessions or fairy tales or fun or whatever, treat each other like dirt even though we have the sense and knowledge of what it brings to the victims.

Hell, I'm sure that someplace, human beings have eaten their own children for some reason other than instinct...perhaps to please some "god" or crap like that.

So your contention is that animals are amicable and work well together?

You'll find that, the smarter an animal, the more violent and malevolent they become. Like Dolphins. Dolphins are very smart. Dolphins also murder and rape for fun.

[Techno-Druid]

Okay I tried...I really did...but what a crock of shit. I tried to watch the wolf one. Got as far as the english dude calling the herd of elk deer. They aren't deer for gods sake. But thats besides the point. If the guy doesn't know one species of animal from another who is he to be spewing this crap? I really suggest he watch Wild Kingdom or something. He's giving wolves a whole hell of a lot of credit where credit isn't due ( I watched the rest). It's called nature doing nature stuff not wolves coming in and "changing" everything. Get real...and they're ELK, get it right.

A deer is not a species, but an entire family full of animals. Any animal that is a cervid (white-tailed deer, mule deer, moose, elk, caribou/reindeer, red deer, pudu, etc)

[Simulacrum]

Obviously, the constituent pars of an ecosystem maintain it.

[Deleted]

I think it needs intent to act responsible.

[gaymer77]

Explain please

Simple, humans are destroying their natural habitat with tearing it down for development. Its the same in the rainforest.

[Techno-Druid]

Simple, humans are destroying their natural habitat with tearing it down for development. Its the same in the rainforest.

So this has anything to do with the animals because...

[Deleted]

Humans are the most responsible animals.

[Independent voter]

Boars tear up the ground. This probably does something positive like give new plants a chance to grow but I don't know.