Anti-Vaccine doctor reveling in his notoriety

[breadisfunny]

Don't want to vaccinate your kids?

Fine by me let them die. If you're that dumb, we aren't going to be losing anyone smart from that offspring that will push our civilization further into advancement.
This sounds cruel and cold but if you rather believe in media nonsense, your children will have to suffer sadly.
It's one thing to argue flue vaccines, which aren't all that effective due to the wide variation of that illness, all the rest however that has been used to reduce all those illnesses killing people at a young age.

If people really believe it's all just big corporate medical companies producing them to make coin out of you put up your kid on the line to make that point, or perhaps those drugs are expensive because well those evil companies know if we don't inject our kids with it they have a good chance of ending up death and in proper countries you don't pay all that much directly for those vaccines anyway, but i guess it depends what you want to invest your money in, kids life vs that new tv/audio installation or that holiday. Hard choices i know.

thats incorrect. you have no clue how smart the children will turn out to be. simply assuming they will be as dumb as their parents is a flawed conclusion at best and laughable at worst.
if you want to think your superior to those anti vaccination people how about using proper logic instead of jumping to conclusions with a flawed premise that leads to a bad conclusion?

[kendro1200]

freedom to wear uranium underpants

Marie Curie essentially could, why shouldn't everyone else?

Honestly, all people need to do is look to the past to see if stuff is bad, vaccinations aren't new, they've been around for a long time. There are some vaccinations for new things, but we have decades of data to link all of the side effects of vaccinations, more years of data than radiation poisoning.
The biggest difference between vaccinations now and vaccinations in the past is that now populations are a lot denser and it is a lot easier to travel, starting a pandemic isn't that hard. Vaccinations are also not a magic bullet-proof vest against diseases, it just makes it harder to get the disease, but if you are exposed to a person that is extremely ill with the disease it is possible for you to catch it. So the lack of vaccinations puts more than just the individual's life at risk, but everyone else's. Part of being inside a society is the social pact, of giving up freedoms in order for the good of society. The good of society is that productivity and security are more stable if people get sick less, thus an individual's right to prevent and treat diseases as they want is given up, and instead is forced to comply with the rules dictated by society. Religious belief has made enforcing medical practices a bit of a touchy subject, but this is a particular situation where it is not a religious practice, and endangers the life of others and the stability of society in the long term. Not to mention allow anti-vaccination groups to continue to exist sets precedence for similar silly baseless groups to form up and further harm society.

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What about the flu jab which has a 3% success rate and is made mandatory for NHS workers? I know it's nit-pickety.

I don't like the idea of being forced into something which hardly works to "do your duties to the public" or face a disciplinary against you.

[Gumboy]

What about the flu jab which has a 3% success rate and is made mandatory for NHS workers? I know it's nit-pickety.

I don't like the idea of being forced into something which hardly works to "do your duties to the public" or face a disciplinary against you.

I wasn't discussing the "Flu vaccine" as it has wildly different expectations then "eradication attempt" vaccines. The flu changes constantly.

Public health workers not being vaccinated against anything possible is a health risk to others; which is a complete oxymoron.

[Catta]

I wasn't discussing the "Flu vaccine" as it has wildly different expectations then "eradication attempt" vaccines. The flu changes constantly.

Public health workers not being vaccinated against anything possible is a health risk to others; which is a complete oxymoron.

Flu will never be eradicated because one of the things needed for eradication is that it only exists in humans.

[Masark]

What about the flu jab which has a 3% success rate and is made mandatory for NHS workers? I know it's nit-pickety.

I don't like the idea of being forced into something which hardly works to "do your duties to the public" or face a disciplinary against you.

23% actually. It's usually in the 60% range, but their strain projections for this season were badly off.

But 23% is still a whole lot better than 0%.

Flu will never be eradicated because one of the things needed for eradication is that it only exists in humans.

Not necessarily only humans, but rather only exists in things we can feasibly vaccinate. The other disease that has been eradicated, rinderpest, is basically cattle measles.

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The same power it has to stop you from murdering someone, getting behind the wheel drunk, or not wearing a seatbelt?

"OMG GOVERNMENT" is also not a valid reason why people should be allow to not vaccinate.

No government can be trusted with that kind of power.

All you have to do is imagine the kind of government that you yourself despise being in power, then give them that power.

But I'm sure that Stalin just wants your children to be immunized from the flu.

[Felya]

No government can be trusted with that kind of power.

All you have to do is imagine the kind of government that you yourself despise being in power, then give them that power.

But I'm sure that Stalin just wants your children to be immunized from the flu.

If evil government wants to get you, they have means that don't require vaccines. Stalin didn't vaccinate his enemies, he sent them to Siberia...

[Gumboy]

Flu will never be eradicated because one of the things needed for eradication is that it only exists in humans.

Yeah, I know. That is why I wasn't really counting the flu, or any other vaccine that we have to keep updating for different strains, just the ones we went for eradication.