politics on MMOC

[Rukh]

When their President turned out to be conservative.

Snap! : P

But seriously though. seriously. US left side of the isle isn't disenfranchised.

[Deleted]

American liberal. When controversial subjects come up, more users seem to argue for the "liberal" point of view. Like if you google what each side stands for in america at least, lets say abortion, liberals would more likely argue for it, conservatives would more likely argue against. Not saying everyone of one party is uniform.

Point was what draws more of one side to here than the other when its a video game forum. Im of the opinion that in america at least, people seem to be 50/50 on being liberal or conservative. maybe im wrong. maybe its not that way in EU.

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Thing is, for most places, a lot of these "issues" are not issues at all.

America (and a few other countries like Ireland) have big abortion debates.....most of Europe its not an issue, abortion is legal and normal, so people are not arguing a "liberal" side, they are just stating accepted normality.


I personaly find this site centrist, verging on centre right. Whereas I am strongly left. If you accept those terms which I usually dont. Afterall, you can have liberal right, and its a strange person who does not have a variety of views on different topics, not all of which easily fit into the same political slot on the left-right spectrum.

America is odd. Sorry, but it is. It has debates on issues most of Europe just dont debate anymore having accepted things as normal a long time ago.Its like debating if slavery is right or wrong......its self evident to most of us, much like abortion, equality etc....why debate the obvious? Also, American liberal is at best centre ground for most of Europe. What they consider left is what I would probably at best consider centrist.

[Zoldor]

There hasn't been a conservative president since Reagan.

Lol yea that is so true. You seem so enlightened about stuff. Surely the director of the CIA, Vice President to Reagan, Senator from Houston and the man who basically was behind getting Reagan elected was totally a liberal. And so was his Son. Stop worshipping Reagan who did next to nothing the guy was an actor rolled about by the Right to do their bidding. All his politics were ideas created by his cabinet and the GOP. I know people who worked on his campaign and helped design it. The guy was a phony and a talking head. We've had plenty of conservatives since then. Namely the guy who did all the work for him Bush, Sr. Ever wonder how Chaney figured out you could run the show from the cabinet and the VP office? Bush, sr laid that ground work. Even Clinton wasn't that liberal and was a huge friend to the Bush family, an honorary son even, both sides loved him he was all about some deregulation and free trade which the conservatives love. I'm so tired of the Reagan dick sucking brigade the guy literally was a puppet they gave him lines he went out and said them like he was working on a set. No liberal president since phony Reagan. Please. The Bush family is very conservative, not insane Tea Party conservative, but pretty much the definition of conservative in American politics. Stop spouting this stupid TV BS about Reagan being a god to conservative people and how oppressed the conservatives have been since he went away. Fabricated victim crying.

[Shurkuris]

It's hard to gauge internet neutrality or bias when I can easily juggle between 8 accounts and have an entire Thread discussion dictated by myself to expertly sway people into believing anything.



Their is Fiction and Reality, most people can't deal with Reality so they stick to online-forums.

[Vyxn]

you see much more Marxist philosophy spewed in these forums then you see anarchist but the funny thing the ones spewing that Marxist philosophy don't know what they are spewing is Marxist

[matters]

You are most definitely correct OP, the majority of the people posting on political topics on this forum are most definitely LEFT leaning. To group them all into one would be the wrong thing to do though. That would almost be like all of said left leaning people calling anyone who is a Republican a Teabagger or whatever other insults they can come up with.

The thing is, whether leaning left or right, you can not just group people as Libs or Tea Party, it is much broader than that. There are many sub classifications that people fall into.

Now that my rant is over i will agree with OP once again and say that MOST of this forums posters are people with a Left wing leaning agenda. I don't know if it has to do with the fact that most people who are playing video games are probably young college students or not. I definitely think that that is a key player when i see how many people on these forums simply hate anyone who is Republican.

[Mentia]

Lol yea that is so true. You see so enlightened about stuff. Surely the director of the CIA, Vice President to Reagan, Senator from Houston and basically was behind getting Reagan elected was totally a liberal. And so was his Son. Stop worshipping Reagan who did next to nothing the guy was an actor rolled about by the Right to do their bidding. All his politics were ideas created by his cabinet and the GOP. I know people who worked on his campaign and helped design it. The guy was a phony and a talking head. We've had plenty of conservatives since then. Namely the guy who did all the work for him Bush, Sr. Ever wonder how Chaney figured out you could run the show from the cabinet and the VP office? Bush, sr laid that ground work. Even Clinton wasn't that liberal and was a huge friend to the Bush family, an honorary son even, both sides loved him he was all about some deregulation and free trade which the conservatives love. I'm so tired of the Reagan dick sucking brigade the guy literally was a puppet they gave him lines he went out and said them like he was working on a set. No liberal president since phony Reagan. Please. The Bush family is very conservative, not insane Tea Party conservative, but pretty much the definition of conservative in American politics. Stop spouting this stupid TV BS about Reagan being a god to conservative people and how oppressed the conservatives have been since he went away. Fabricated victim crying.

Do you have that saved or did you just type that up now?

[Kraenen]

you see much more Marxist philosophy spewed in these forums then you see anarchist but the funny thing the ones spewing that Marxist philosophy don't know what they are spewing is Marxist

or... you know, they aren't marxist. i could just say that about you: that you're spewing marxism and you just don't know it. You seem obsessed with conspiratorial, unfalsifiable theories these days.

[Deleted]

The thing is, whether leaning left or right, you can not just group people as Libs or Tea Party, it is much broader than that. There are many sub classifications that people fall into.

Stop treating people like individuals thats very dishonest of you people are either pro or against you.

There is no inbetween

[KayossZero]

when you get infracted for using a source because the moderator claimed the source was a conspiracy theory web site then that moderator use that same source then you can come talk to me

so go ahead Endus infract me but im not going to sit here and allow others claim im making crap up when I have proof of the moderation bias on MMOC General Off-Topic
I can fill this whole page of proof of that bias and you know it including return letters from other moderators about you in particular

Conservative victim complex: "Because I don't get to spew the bullshit I do elsewhere in my echo chambers I claim bias!!!111!"

Thread is complete with a Celticmoon post as well.

[Dendrek]

I will tell you why but would get banned for doing so because you are not allowed to discuss forum moderation

let me put it this way when you have the powers to be tend to be on one side then you attract people from that side

You do realize you're not infracted for your opinion, it's for the way you express it. I really don't understand why this is such a difficult thing to grasp. Several of this sites more "liberal" posters have numerous bans under their belt. I guess that means we have a lot of biased conservative moderators! Herpaderp.

[Endus]

you see much more Marxist philosophy spewed in these forums then you see anarchist but the funny thing the ones spewing that Marxist philosophy don't know what they are spewing is Marxist

In my experience, most of the people who think Marxist thinking is "bad" don't actually understand what Marx was actually talking about.

[Sevyvia]

Demographics of gamers still leans young. Younger people are generally left-leaning. So, there you have it. Also, people have some sort of delusion that it's good vs. evil. People who don't even have any real horse in the race still perpetuate this underlying, stupid assertion.

But hey, I'm sure I only think the above stuff because I'm an evil right-leaning person.

[Fexus]

In my experience, most of the people who think Marxist thinking is "bad" don't actually understand what Marx was actually talking about.

Well Marxism = socialism = communism and they can be used completely interchangeably in any context.

[0ptimo]

If you're not a liberal by the time you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 40, you have no brain. Or something like that.

[MasterOfNone]

yes, this forum is extremely liberal in most cases. yes its mostly americans. no im not republican, and yes most of them arent in the age group to have an appreciable amount of life experience. heres to the future.

[Fexus]

yes, this forum is extremely liberal in most cases. yes its mostly americans. no im not republican, and yes most of them arent in the age group to have an appreciable amount of life experience. heres to the future.

Because the boomers are doing such a bang-up job running the country with all that "appreciable amount of life experience," am I right?

[Kraenen]

In my experience, most of the people who think Marxist thinking is "bad" don't actually understand what Marx was actually talking about.

There's got to be some term for someone who disagrees with something because they don't understand what it really is. Because it comes up a lot, like in anti-evolution arguments you'll hear people saying they don't think their grandma was a monkey so evolution can't be true. Or they don't like Obama because he's a muslim socialist.

[Gandrake]

probably because we just don't give a fuck

i consider myself to be something of an idealist

[Kalis]

I'm regarded as centre right in the UK - a traditional Conservative - on here I'm borderline communist compared to some people who would be regarded as fringe extremists in Britain.

We don't have any real abortion debate, we accept a free-at-point-of-use healthcare system as being sensible, virtually unrestricted firearm ownership not being sensible, etc. We settled those issues decades ago.