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  1. #621
    (Already post this thrice but posts not shown for unknown reason)
    Hello, Frost DK 910 here I really really need an advice.

    Armory: worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/frostmourne/thanàtòs
    Spec: Frost
    World of Logs: warcraftlogs.com/character/us/frostmourne/thanàtòs
    Question (BE VERY SPECIFIC):

    I'm doing mythic nighthold with guild, I notice that my DPS is terribly low, almost lowest in guild in every fight and lowest of all melee.

    - I keep spamming Obliterate&Rime like there will be no tomorrow when BoS is up
    - I make sure that Remorseless Winter is active (or on cooldown) before I waste any rune
    - I use Rime whenever it procs
    - Never miss to use PoF and that 5min-Frost-Dragon-Breath when it's available
    - I have all Frost legendries and 4P, always ready to switch. My trinket is 910 Skorpyron + 890 CoF (Sometimes replace with KJ Trinket that depends on the fight)
    - All 3 relics is Amberdexterity.
    - I know the fight, and I was dpsing on boss 95% of times
    - Sometimes I got 1st most DPS in mid fight, but in the end of fight, I almost never touch 700k dps if it's ST.

    I compare myself to a DK guildie, he has only 1 Sephuz with no other legendary (his main is blood) he has same ilvl as me so do his Talents and trinkets but he sometimes does DPS better than me (note that I equip both SoN and Bracer and we do ST fight) and whenever he doesn't, my DPS is not significantly better than him, the different is less than 30k dps if i'm better.

  2. #622
    Keep using Murderous Efficiency. Frozen pulse is sh.t when you use gathering storm and BoS. Keep Seal + koltira, they're like BiS legendary for BoS. Don't use KJBW.
    I'm a noob when it comes to analyze logs but... What I don't understand is that your Obliterate is your first source of damage. When I compare with the others DKs, their main source of damage are either BoS or HB. Maybe that's because you have 3 obliterate relics (btw they sucks. Even in single target 865 Blast Radius Relics are worth 890 Ambidextry relics (source : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=594475001 )) ? I don't know, it's weird. Also their frost strike only represents 5% of their dps while yours is twice the amount !
    Do you use rimes before obliterate or frost strike ? It should be your first priority.
    In fights like Krosus I noticed that while you got belt + seal, you still did WAY less damage than when you had the KJBW trinket instead of belt. That's not supposed to happen. That's most likely because of Frozen Pulse's talent + poor uptime of BoS.
    Last edited by Raiz; 2017-05-19 at 04:05 PM.

  3. #623
    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...schmo/advanced
    Spec: Frost
    World of Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/charact...ollow/joeschmo

    - I raid in a casual once a week raid team that is currently on M Krosus
    - DPS seems to be falling behind and even my ilvl ranks are either green or very low blues
    - Legendary choices are limited and KJBW and Bracers are my only offensive legendaries (others are Prydaz, Movement Boots, and AMS Cloak)
    - Use EEF as my other trinket but also have 890 Angerboda and 860 EoC

    I think I understand the rotation quite well but can't seem to get my numbers higher.

  4. #624
    Quick question. I'm a blood dk, but I'm going frost for the M Star Augur fight since our druid is solo tanking it.
    I'm 906 ilvl with 23%crit, 21%haste, 37%mastery and 9%vers. I use Aggramar + Spehuz since I don't have any frost legendary. Set 4pc, weapons are low ilvl and just 48 traits, with 890 foci and 895 chrono shard as trinkets.

    Since I'm going with the breath build, I was wandering if it would be better for me to take Horn of Winter instead of Freezing Fog to have an easier uptime on breath and less downtime with runes. Or should I not worry about downtimes and take FF anyways?.

  5. #625
    Armory https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...draenor/darvel
    Spec Frost
    Logs https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/P2rJykh64qAzbMZd/

    I feel like I should be doing more with my current ilvl, could you guys check out my logs and see if i'm doing anything wrong please?

  6. #626
    Armory - https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ch...ndrius/zeppole
    Spec - Frost
    Logs - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ytical&fight=4

    Hi guys, im having some trouble here ranking low in the item level bracket and i cant figure out what the problem is. i think it might be rotation but im not to sure at this point. thanks for any help you can throw at me

  7. #627
    Armory - https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ch...peak/corothall
    Spec - Unholy
    Logs - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    Hello All, I'm hoping to get some help to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Compared to my guild I'm usually in top 5, but when I look at logs I'm at like 30-50% for my iLvl. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong exactly, so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

  8. #628
    Hello all,
    Im use to follow what icy veins says about best talents and all other stuff but im getting confuse now. I see everyone talking about Dark Arbiter but icy veins sugests Soul reaper unless (and now im quoting icy veins) "... if you have Convergence of Fates, 80%+ Mastery, and either the legendary shoulders or Sephuz's Secret".
    Everyone meet this criteria when they talking about DA or im missing something here?
    What do I use if I dont meet the criteria above?

    Thank you

  9. #629
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonasol View Post
    Hello all,
    Im use to follow what icy veins says about best talents and all other stuff but im getting confuse now. I see everyone talking about Dark Arbiter but icy veins sugests Soul reaper unless (and now im quoting icy veins) "... if you have Convergence of Fates, 80%+ Mastery, and either the legendary shoulders or Sephuz's Secret".
    Everyone meet this criteria when they talking about DA or im missing something here?
    What do I use if I dont meet the criteria above?

    Thank you
    The best answer is 'sim both' to see for yourself, but I've yet to see any situation where SR pulls ahead of DA anymore. Absolutely if you meet even one of those criteria (CoF, 80%+ mastery, legendary shoulders) then you should 110% go DA, but even without meeting those criteria DA should still pull ahead (assuming you play it right).

  10. #630
    Tks for the answer, I even forgot I posted this, was some time ago already.
    Yes I made my own tests and that "bitch" realy makes a lot of damage. Is my most powerfull hability on most fights.

  11. #631
    Icy veins has also updated to recommend Arbiter, you might have looked there while they didn't have so many test results to conclude different then in Nighthold.

  12. #632
    Armory- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ch...oudmoore/fjara
    logs- https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...-done&source=7

    I am having a dickens of a time trying to figure out why my rankings are so bad, my guild wants me to pick up dps in the fallen avatar fight but I really don't know what more I can do. I know that I have a tendency to panic and hit stuff early but I tried curbing that in this latest pull.

  13. #633
    Really struggling for some reason pushing anymore dps out. obvious some improvements to be made, as well as having limited legendary options. I only have Bracers, Helm, and belt thus far. Any help as to general improvements would be greatly appreciated. Something about Unholy just isnt clicking for me and i cant seem to sort out what it is.

    Can't post links atm due to not posting often(maybe not ever lol)

    Character name is Bubonica on stormrage, and logs are not hidden. Now if i could only find a good way around posting logs...

  14. #634
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonasol View Post
    Tks for the answer, I even forgot I posted this, was some time ago already.
    Yes I made my own tests and that "bitch" realy makes a lot of damage. Is my most powerfull hability on most fights.
    The joy of those 1 in 20 pulls when you are gcd capped spamming dc

  15. #635
    Quote Originally Posted by Dkwhyevernot View Post
    The joy of those 1 in 20 pulls when you are gcd capped spamming dc
    1 in 20? You must be doing something wrong then

  16. #636
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonasol View Post
    1 in 20? You must be doing something wrong then
    You get that many dc procs? Mine seem very rng anyway.

  17. #637
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmberBelle View Post

    I am having a dickens of a time trying to figure out why my rankings are so bad, my guild wants me to pick up dps in the fallen avatar fight but I really don't know what more I can do. I know that I have a tendency to panic and hit stuff early but I tried curbing that in this latest pull.

    I know this might be a little late, but here's my 5 cents. I've only looked through a few of your logs (the 2 longest fights), and there are 2 things that can possibly help you. One thing is that you have few uses of Cold Heart, with anywhere from 20-50 seconds (after you've gotten 20 stacks) delay between some of the casts, which is not ideal. You want to stack it up with concordance and unholy strength if possible (they usually align pretty well from my experiences), and of course apocalypse every 2nd cast.

    The other thing that I could see was your uptime on Unholy Frenzy, which is pretty low. 31-34% from those 2 good tries is, to put it lightly, not good. You want at least 80% and preferably over 90% if possible. Hope this helps!

  18. #638
    Quote Originally Posted by Dkwhyevernot View Post
    You get that many dc procs? Mine seem very rng anyway.
    I never talked about procs but I get many yes. Thats the all point of unholy frenzy I guess. Actualy somethimes is hard to dump all those procs and the RP and keep the rotation going. Anyway im not the best person to give advices :P

  19. #639
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonasol View Post
    I never talked about procs but I get many yes. Thats the all point of unholy frenzy I guess. Actualy somethimes is hard to dump all those procs and the RP and keep the rotation going. Anyway im not the best person to give advices :P
    I'm not arguing with you, just saying my dps seems more dependant on rng than 'player skill' from pull to pull.

    Which is probably why my ranks range from 60%s to 99%s

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    Hi guys I'm trying to improve my dps, but I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong. I'm currently at 3/9M but I'm not parsing high enough haha.

    Armory:https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ch...rgeras/dkurama
    Spec:Unholy
    Logs:https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/W1qzcXnMG4Bpm3YL/

    I just want to know if I'm doing something wrong.

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