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    which one?
    The Charles kind of course!

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    I think the solution to issues such as the one in OP, will be solved as soon we start thinking of issues plaguing the black community, as issues plaguing America.
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    There was a study done several years ago (looking for it now) that blacks born to families not originally from the U.S. do better than blacks born to families inside the U.S. I'll find the study and post it - but I always thought that was interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman View Post
    Hasn't the University of Iowa always had it's rep as a party college?

    Iowa City has been the Vegas equivalent in the state since I was like 14.
    Buddy. I am Tschoerman...... What would I care about the University of IA, and Ames? lol
    I'm long past the age thingy. I really have no clue, honestly.

    We don't need WinnaVegas etc. We have a whole bunch of Casino's in CB....
    Horseshoe, Harrah's and Ameristar casinos are here.
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    There was a study done several years ago (looking for it now) that blacks born to families not originally from the U.S. do better than blacks born to families inside the U.S. I'll find the study and post it - but I always thought that was interesting.
    Exactly my point, people like the op try to make this kind of discourse about race and forget to look at the larger picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrgannus View Post
    There is no way in hell I'll ever reach the status of my parents. One could argue I hit the parent jackpot with how much they make, but it in some ways creates near impossible pressure to stack up to an extremely high standard. Instead of being disappointed in myself my entire life, I came to terms a while ago that I would never be able to afford a nice house in Silicon Valley and retire younger than the national average. As long as I'm debt free I'm content for the most part
    I'm aware of how hard it can be,

    I feel that you've given up to easily because the struggle has broken your spirit Bane style.

    Fuck that. I'll beat my head against the wall until it breaks, even if it's made of steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    There was a study done several years ago (looking for it now) that blacks born to families not originally from the U.S. do better than blacks born to families inside the U.S. I'll find the study and post it - but I always thought that was interesting.
    I think that's true regardless of race. Just spend 5 min on Amazon campus and listen to the accents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    Buddy. I am Tschoerman...... What would I care about the University of IA, and Ames? lol
    I'm long past the age thingy. I really have no clue, honestly.

    We don't need WinnaVegas etc. We have a whole bunch of Casino's in CB....
    Horseshoe, Harrah's and Ameristar casinos are here.
    Whats a Tschoermen? Are you one of the only people who have and remember their german lineage when german immigrants came to the state in the early 1800s?

    Yeah, still seems like yesterday when the Isle of Capri opened up in Waterloo.

    Cedar Rapids was also about to open a casino there, but the Isle put up tons of money for the Vote No campaign there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    There was a study done several years ago (looking for it now) that blacks born to families not originally from the U.S. do better than blacks born to families inside the U.S. I'll find the study and post it - but I always thought that was interesting.
    African blacks and African American blacks are two entirely different groups of people.

    The teacher who taught my Principles of Macroeconomics class is a Liberian immigrant and army veteran. He's the one who got me into the subject. We still keep in touch.
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    From the article. It seems we have a good idea why this is happening, pending greater investigation for definitive explanation.


    The explanations for this phenomenon are varied, but largely hinge on many of the criticisms that already exist in regard to socioeconomics and race in the U.S. Economists cite lower educational attainment, higher rates of single-parent households, and geographic segregation as potential explanations for these trends. The latter determines not only what neighborhoods people live in, but often what types of schools children attend, which could play a role in hindering their educational and professional attainment later on. According to Reeves, "In terms of opportunity, there are still two Americas, divided by race."

    Still, most economists lack a clear, definitive explanation for why, after reaching the middle class, many black American families quickly lose that status as their children fall behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman View Post
    Whats a Tschoermen? Are you one of the only people who have and remember their german lineage when german immigrants came to the state in the early 1800s?
    lol.... nice wording....
    No, my lineage is rather pure... 500yrs family line in the same city in Germany. I'm the rebel that left for that crazy adventure called USA.
    My family sees me like the Hobbits in the shire see Bilbo and Frodo... Crazy, totally crazy.. Did what one doesn't do..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    lol.... nice wording....
    No, my lineage is rather pure... 500yrs family line in the same city in Germany. I'm the rebel that left for that crazy adventure called USA.
    My family sees me like the Hobbits in the shire see Bilbo and Frodo... Crazy, totally crazy.. Did what one doesn't do..
    And you came to Iowa of all places.
    'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
    Or a yawing hole in a battered head
    And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
    And there they lay I damn me eyes
    All lookouts clapped on Paradise
    All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    And you came to Iowa of all places.
    Young people leave the state to live.

    Old people arrive to the state to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman View Post
    Young people leave the state to live.

    Old people arrive to the state to die.
    Let's be fair. I've heard they have some very nice... corn.
    'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
    Or a yawing hole in a battered head
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    And there they lay I damn me eyes
    All lookouts clapped on Paradise
    All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Let's be fair. I've heard they have some very nice... corn.
    The endless fields are beautiful. They go from good to great when you see the Loess hills.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loess_Hills


    Another cool thing about Iowa,

    Buxton Iowa was a mining colony from the late 1800s to the mid 1920s that had a diverse population. What made it noteworthy was that it had no overt segergation and there was no discrimination socially nor in schooling/housing.

    When the town died and the black population saw the outside world, they were in for a rude awankening.


    http://www.blackpast.org/aah/buxton-iowa-1895-1927

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman View Post
    Young people leave the state to live.

    Old people arrive to the state to die.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Let's be fair. I've heard they have some very nice... corn.
    assholes lol
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    Obama is very well educated. He's articulate. Mild mannered. Likable. And a lot of people would kill him dead if they could. Obama is the most oreo black guy ever, and many white people still hate him. I'm convinced that part of the GOPs most recent success is simply racism against the nigger in chief.

    I voted for the guy thinking it would help things. I was totally wrong. It made everything worse. It forced long dormant racism into the light of day.

    And you wonder why its hard for other folks that aren't even as blessed as Obama?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how...lts/ar-AA99ycN

    cause i can't - how come when black families reach middle class their kids tend to lose that status? thought if you were born with opportunity you can make things happen
    the article highlights black kids and families, but ignores other races and even white families.

    I think, at least in terms of proof, if you want to spearate out something like this and prove some kind of racist point or that other races have a higher privieldge rating or standpoint, then you have to do the research into showing that white kids have a better chance at "success" than other races.

    The simple reason, could be as simple as our economy is in the shitter, and everyoen acorss the board is struggling to get ahead. And that white kids as just as likely to not do better than their parents did.


    edit: hell, there's even a post on the off-topic forums on the front page who millenials make less than their parents or grandparents. Seems to me like this is not a race issue, but one outside that scope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne01 View Post
    That does look very beautiful. I have spent the least of my time in America in the middle. Mostly on the coasts, but man some of the landscape there can be breathtaking.
    I think most people just take what they see on the interstate as how a whole state looks, which is sad because every state has some beautiful areas. Some noticeable ones in my area that you may or may not have seen in the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Marshes along the coast, I like Charlestons.
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