Kansas Governor repeals anti-discrimination law via executive order

[Orbitus]

Do you live under a rock?

The whole point of affirmative action hires is to hire someone who fills all the checkboxes and put them somewhere where they can do a minimum of harm, so that you don't get nailed by disparate impact

No. Every place that I have had a job, doesn't have the so called affirmative action that you people complain about.

[Alvito]

Or they're put into those groups because people are treating them differently as it is.

I understand why it happens but doing it is also part of the problem at the very least it drags out moving on.

[vetinari]

No. Every place that I have had a job, doesn't have the so called affirmative action that you people complain about.

How very interesting.

[Lenonis]

I was debating the strategic blunder of Pearl Harbor with my history teacher in 7th grade, I could locate 85% of all nations on a blank map in the 9th grade. These are not hard things to do/understand.

Ok? Good for you. Now answer my actual question...or run for office. :P

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No. Every place that I have had a job, doesn't have the so called affirmative action that you people complain about.

Affirmative action is the wrong solution to the right problem. There are some real problems with it the way it is now.

[satimy]

Please, enlighten me on the qualifications of the american people to set policy on the economy and foreign policy for start. I'll wait here.

I'm not interested in your word twisting strawman building. Most people can't point to Iraq on a map but you want to them to decide military policy? Please.

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Yeah, that's true, but unfortunately the universe doesn't have an instant karma button that immediately provides justice when someone does something wrong.

The government is supposed to provide and protect the general welfare and the 14th amendment confirmed the governments role in equality.

You might not like it, you might not agree with it, but that's the way the constitution is set up.

Businesses are not allowed to do whatever they like. Sorry.

Oh is that why the government promoted and enforced segregation for 100 years after the 14th amendment. Also I guarantee you that if I didn't want a fag working at my business, there wouldn't be any fags.


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[Lenonis]

Oh is that why the government promoted and enforced segregation for 100 years after the 14th amendment. Also I guarantee you that if I didn't want a fag working at my business, there wouldn't be any fags.

I'm really not sure what your point was supposed to be other than a rather sad attempt to be provocative and edgy.

[satimy]

I'm really not sure what your point was supposed to be other than a rather sad attempt to be provocative and edgy.

arguing that the 14th amendment was somehow against private discrimination is a stupid argument, that was my point.

[Kellhound]

Ok? Good for you. Now answer my actual question...or run for office. :P

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Affirmative action is the wrong solution to the right problem. There are some real problems with it the way it is now.

My wife made me agree to not run for office actually.

[Kyriani]

People should be judged in the workplace, based upon their ability to do the job, and not based upon the fears, myths and stereotypes that one may have due to their race, or gender, or orientation, or disability, or age, religion or national origin.

And if you sort of take that notion, that principle, one step further, it makes business better. To the extent that you're making employment decisions in the workplace, whether they be on the basis of hiring somebody for a job or promoting somebody for a job, or treating somebody on the job, you ground those workplace decisions in the ability of that individual to do the job, rather than on a stereotype, or a fear, or a myth, because that person is from a different race than you, or a different religion, or looks different, or is older, or they prefer the same sex, or doesn't walk, or moves around or communicates in a different way from you.

If you base those workplace decisions, upon the ability of that individual to do the job, you will get the most qualified person.

[Lenonis]

arguing that the 14th amendment was somehow against private discrimination is a stupid argument, that was my point.

But it's been used that way. I guess I'm still not quite sure where you are going with all this. Whether it's a semantics argument or you are trying to state that businesses should be free to do whatever they want.

There is a time and place I guess to argue semantics about what the constitution really states and what was the original intent, but you can't really just toss out centuries of court decisions and interpretations. The first and second amendments are pretty excellent examples of how time has shaped those amendments to mean more than they originally did.

[Alvito]

Not addressing it allows it to continue without end.

You address it like you would if it happened to anybody else. Then is will stop and people wont be conditioned into thinking people are lumped into various groups for random traits, habits or beliefs. You don't break the cycle of people being treated differently by treating them differently.

[Lenonis]

You address it like you would if it happened to anybody else.

Well that's what anti-discrimination laws due. They prevent ANY firing based on race (which includes white) or sexual orientation (which includes straight).

They are blanket laws that treat everyone equal.

[satimy]

But it's been used that way. I guess I'm still not quite sure where you are going with all this. Whether it's a semantics argument or you are trying to state that businesses should be free to do whatever they want.

There is a time and place I guess to argue semantics about what the constitution really states and what was the original intent, but you can't really just toss out centuries of court decisions and interpretations. The first and second amendments are pretty excellent examples of how time has shaped those amendments to mean more than they originally did.

The civil rights act is what makes firing people based on certain things illegal, as well as forcing you to accomodate them. I have never seen a court case that removed discrimination in a private business based on the 14th amendment, the 14th amendment is irrelevant to private business, it applies to the federal government.

[Sunseeker]

I think it's time to bring some democracy to Kansas.

[Trassk]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that places like Kansas



and greece



today has some of the most homophobic societies around them?

Don't get me wrong america is progressive (though UKs better) but some of your states belong in somewhere like russia given how backwards it is.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Anti-discrimination laws are discriminating against those who want to discriminate. Tolerate my intolerance you bigot!

[Felya]

Do you live under a rock?

The whole point of affirmative action hires is to hire someone who fills all the checkboxes and put them somewhere where they can do a minimum of harm, so that you don't get nailed by disparate impact

Do you think it's even remotely possible to find someone who checks that box to be qualified to do the job?