[Feral] How to use Rejunavation effectively?

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Hi y'all,

I'm playing a feral druid, casually, but I enjoy tinkering how to maximize damage and heal output in PuGs.
What I actually love most about the playstyle of Feral in WoD is the Rejuvanation in cat form - I dunno why, I just love it - I feel so useful, such a neat way to grant utility!

Anyway, I haven't really figured out how to perfectly use it. I've stayed away from mouse-over macros, because I already have much to do with the boss abilities (Tektus... ugh), and so I mostly just keep Rejuv up on myself, and actively target mates and rejuv them during intense phases of damage (shadow orbs), while not trying to waste energy or let my bleeds drop. I guess it's a small loss in dmg (a few seconds of no auto hit), but a lot of heal - not an ideal trade, but still a nice additional number.

Ideally, I guess ferals should end the fight with 0 mana, having used Rejuv constantly- but how do you guys do it? And which palyers do you prioritize? Do you have a useful Macro to share?

(And by the way, the whole thing also applies to Healing Touch procs.)

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I know it's probably a lazy way of doing it, but I use a macro.

#showtooltip
/console autoUnshift 0
/cast [target=targettarget,help,nodead] Healing Touch; [@player] Healing Touch
/console autoUnshift 1

#showtooltip
/cast [target=targettarget,help,nodead] Rejuvenation; [@player] Rejuvenation

Both just cast the heal on the targets target, 99.9999% of the time it's the tank and heals them, because I always have DoC, it heals me too. I then use pawkets weakaura set, with a mod that tracks the remaning time as a bar.

http://pastebin.com/y7Zey604



I'm sure there are better ways of doing this, using mouseovers for instance, but Im just simply to lazy to do it this way.

[Heywes]

Mouse over macro. Heal when not dpsing. Thats pretty much it. Slap it onto however is going to be taking consistent damage just to help out.
HT is the same thing, instant HT whoever is missing health using a mouse over macro.

[Will]

I don't bother. I put rejuv on myself all the time during high-intensity phases like Firestorm. Any time the healers would be stressed, basically. I suppose I could blanket rejuv during Oregorger roll phase for example. I should have thought of that sooner; it's an ideal time to toss a spare heal when travelling between crates. I'll do it next run.

You don't need to end the fight with 0 mana. As I said, it''s a weak heal. Sure every little heal helps the healers, but during easy-to-heal parts of a fight, it's just a waste of time as the healers will have it perfectly covered, you're better off just focusing on DPS. Just do what you've been doing, throwing the occasional rejuv in anticipation of high-intensity phases.

[Deleted]

I don't bother. I put rejuv on myself all the time during high-intensity phases like Firestorm. Any time the healers would be stressed, basically. I suppose I could blanket rejuv during Oregorger roll phase for example. I should have thought of that sooner; it's an ideal time to toss a spare heal when travelling between crates. I'll do it next run.

You don't need to end the fight with 0 mana. As I said, it''s a weak heal. Sure every little heal helps the healers, but during easy-to-heal parts of a fight, it's just a waste of time as the healers will have it perfectly covered, you're better off just focusing on DPS. Just do what you've been doing, throwing the occasional rejuv in anticipation of high-intensity phases.

It's hardly a waste if i'm honest. We have a lot of down-time in our rotation, which can easily be used to rejuv. We aren't exactly GCD capped...we are far far from it.

[TheLOOGE]

Ideally, I guess ferals should end the fight with 0 mana, having used Rejuv constantly- but how do you guys do it? And which palyers do you prioritize? Do you have a useful Macro to share?

(And by the way, the whole thing also applies to Healing Touch procs.)

Going to be nice here and say any Feral who's worried about weaving Rejuvs to the point of going OOM probably isn't too worried about their DPS and that will show on the meters. I will off heal if/when necessary, usually I'll heal myself mostly, sometimes will toss a Ward out on the active tank occasionally, but again, this is mostly casted on myself. The reality is, you don't have infinite mana with which to spend recklessly on blanket Rejuv'ing your raid. I find that in Mythic raiding, the best I can do to help out my raid is to keep myself hotted up, HT'ing myself, CW'ing myself, etc., you get the drift. You'll also find that with such a small mana pool, you'll run out of mana fairly quickly if you're not careful. Running DoC is nice and all, but you're not a healer. You're a hybrid, yes, but not one that your raid will look to and depend upon to keep your raid up in those mega clutch situations. At best, your healing is nominal. But if you're losing sleep over not "healing" enough as a Feral, chances are you're not too worried about your DPS and at the end of the day, that is ultimately what is most important above all else.

However, if you insist on playing more of a hybrid role, some of the best help you can provide is spec'ing into Nature's Vigil and popping that when time calls for it. It's nowhere near as good as it was in MoP, but that sort of DPS-healing utility has been neutered for the most part. Certainly better than AG. RIP AG.

Also, try Ysera's Gift if CW isn't your thing.

Outside of those things, I certainly do NOT recommend oom'ing yourself for purposes of blanket rejuv'ing the raid.

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Also, try Ysera's Gift if CW isn't your thing.

Outside of those things, I certainly do NOT recommend oom'ing yourself for purposes of blanket rejuv'ing the raid.

I've never really used CW aside from doing a little bit of PvP in MoP when HoTW + CW would give you tonns of health back. I usually just stick with Renewal and occasionally swap to Ysera's when I know I won't need the Renewal. Is CW actually viable nowadays then?

Edit: Thinking about it, it's 55k over 6 seconds. Seeing as I usually do the trick with Survival Instincts and Displacer Beast on Kromog with the Thundering Blows, this seems like something to chain along with this both Survival Instincts, CW and Thundering Blows last 6 seconds.

[TheLOOGE]

Oh CW is fucking glorious, without question, the best talent in that row imho. Since the loss of Barkskin and since SI isn't always available to bail you out of situations, things like Tantrum, Thundering Blows, Body Slam, I mean you name it, it functions exactly like a healing tonic/healthstone -- and each of those ticks can crit. Certainly beats the pants out of the other two -- one being a super slow hot for 4% of your max hp every 5 seconds and the other being a fairly shitty 2 min cd that heals slightly more than a healing tonic/healthstone. CW can heal for just as much if you're lucky with crits, if not more, and it's only on a 30 second cd. It's not Barkskin, but it definitely helps in many various situations. Like you mentioned, Thundering Blows is a perfect example and is where this talent shines the most -- but make no mistake it shines elsewhere too.

[mmokri]

how do you guys do it? And which palyers do you prioritize?

I use it like http://www.wowhead.com/spell=108238/renewal = me extreme low health going to die

[Deleted]

Ahh I see. Thanks a lot for the information, I'll give it a try tonight and play around with it. I honestly never even bothered looking at it or considering it a viable option until now ^.^ Woopsie

[Reported]

Thanks for a great post , i will do this tonight and see

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Well after tonights raid, I think I can safely say that I quite like Cenarion Ward now - I'll be using it more often from now-on Thanks for the information.