Feminist Lesbian chooses Female Privilege over Male Privilege

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"Lesbian Feminist Norah Vincent lives as a man for 18 months, goes nuts and is happy to get back to life as a woman."

Note this in particular: http://youtu.be/Ip7kP_dd6LU?t=9m23s



"The dating adventures are the most breathtaking. Ned is on the receiving end of women's boring, self-pitying monologues and endless tirades about what bastards men are. His dates all suspect he is as bad as the rest of them:

'They made every man they met into a wolf, even when that man was a woman."

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I don't care, she's ugly.

[Cthulhu 2020]

This can only end well.

And by well, I mean a shitstorm of people believing all feminists think like this.

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This can only end well.

And by well, I mean a shitstorm of people believing all feminists think like this.

One thing she said sticks out to me though, where I feel she's hit the nail right on the head. Women have no idea what it is to be a man and generally have no clue about what struggles men face. It's the same for men empathizing with women. This is why work towards equality is so very ambiguous, what's a huge problem to some is comforting to others.

Also, the quote by Xarim below the video, I didn't actually hear that being said, maybe I just wasn't listening well enough?

[Venant]

One thing she said sticks out to me though, where I feel she's hit the nail right on the head. Women have no idea what it is to be a man and generally have no clue about what struggles men face. It's the same for men empathizing with women. This is why work towards equality is so very ambiguous, what's a huge problem to some is comforting to others.

Also, the quote by Xarim below the video, I didn't actually hear that being said, maybe I just wasn't listening well enough?

It is unfortunate and also very true that in the extremely polarizing culture of equality politics, people are often forced to take extreme and shallow positions on issues that are incredibly complex. You end up with large numbers of people who actually believe that if you happen to be a certain gender + race, it is the equivalent of rolling a D&D character with perfect stats.

[josykay]

It is not about "choosing" a privilege you prefer. If you live as a person you can not identify with your self, life becomes shitty. No matter if male or female. That's the problem for example transsexuals have to face every day, till they decide to transition.

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It is not about "choosing" a privilege you prefer. If you live as a person you can not identify with your self, life becomes shitty. No matter if male or female. That's the problem for example transsexuals have to face every day, till they decide to transition.

This. As someone who's lived as both, I'd say life was less hard as a dude, but it's still tough in different ways, and it depends who you are. The ultra manly men who are just ultra manly probably have an easy time of it, they fit their role and they're happy like that and that's chill. Same for the opposite in women.

Also bear in mind (I havn't watched the video, as im at work, but...) it's not a totally "fair" swap. She's going from being a gay woman to a straight man, I assume, going on dates with girls while presenting as male. The entire thing is completley different, so it's not really like you can compare and contrast the two kinda thing.

[Independent voter]

I guess I'm ultra manly, I like fights and I love women but consider them almost another species.

That said the video is a little sympathetic to men which is a nice change.

[Monkiy]

She never chose a privilege, she simply went back to being the woman she was was after the experiment. If anything, this helps to dispel several biases against men from new age feminists.

[dextersmith]

Many women call for empathy and understanding but don't care to reciprocate.

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This. As someone who's lived as both, I'd say life was less hard as a dude, but it's still tough in different ways, and it depends who you are. The ultra manly men who are just ultra manly probably have an easy time of it, they fit their role and they're happy like that and that's chill. Same for the opposite in women.

Also bear in mind (I havn't watched the video, as im at work, but...) it's not a totally "fair" swap. She's going from being a gay woman to a straight man, I assume, going on dates with girls while presenting as male. The entire thing is completley different, so it's not really like you can compare and contrast the two kinda thing.

You should watch the video. It'll give some extra perspective. It wasn't about fitting into your gender role but rather about understanding that it's tough in different ways. In what ways would you say life was less hard as a dude by the way?

[Pull My Finger]

Oh, it's the Misogynist-Insecurity-Champion OT time of day again.

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You should watch the video. It'll give some extra perspective. It wasn't about fitting into your gender role but rather about understanding that it's tough in different ways. In what ways would you say life was less hard as a dude by the way?

You should watch the video. It'll give some extra perspective. It wasn't about fitting into your gender role but rather about understanding that it's tough in different ways. In what ways would you say life was less hard as a dude by the way?

I will do, I saw a thing a while ago about this, I think it was at the start of the experiement (or possibly it was just someone else) and was really interested in it. I can't watch it until I get home, but.

As for life being less hard as a dude... I just tried to type out a big ol' paragraph about little niggles and quality of life or safety issues but it's nothing really that's not been said before, and it's all anecdotal so it's pretty meaningless. In the end though it comes down to people's perception of you. Obviously YMMV depending on how "good" you are at your gender, as I mentioned earlier, like... if you're a pretty standard guy or girl it's going to be easier than if you're not, but generally it feels like the expectations placed onto you as a woman are more restrictive than those placed on guys.

[Katchii]

Many women call for empathy and understanding but don't care to reciprocate.

10000x this.

I can't speak for all married men, but I know for me, if I spoke to my wife the same way she speaks to me (no sympathy, not "bad" just no sympathy and usually pretty straight forward) ...we'd have a lot more fights.

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Oh, it's the Misogynist-Insecurity-Champion OT time of day again.

I think you should watch the video and make up your own mind.

[Hawgwash]

The quintessential bastion of camaraderie: the men's bowling team.

[Captain N]

10000x this.

I can't speak for all married men, but I know for me, if I spoke to my wife the same way she speaks to me (no sympathy, not "bad" just no sympathy and usually pretty straight forward) ...we'd have a lot more fights.

I tell my wife that her feelings are like a mine field - No matter what I say I'm bound to cause some sort of blow up.

On the grounds of women not reciprocating empathy and understanding - A lot of that is due to poor communication from both parties. Hell most problems in marriages can be chalked up to not being able to talk to your partner as an equal.

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I tell my wife that her feelings are like a mine field - No matter what I say I'm bound to cause some sort of blow up.

On the grounds of women not reciprocating empathy and understanding - A lot of that is due to poor communication from both parties. Hell most problems in marriages can be chalked up to not being able to talk to your partner as an equal.

Don't you think that sounds like an abusive relationship?

If a woman said that "no matter whatever I say, I'm bound to cause my husband to blow up", don't you think she would be offered a domestic violence shelter?

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Oh, it's the Misogynist-Insecurity-Champion OT time of day again.

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[Hammerfest]

This doesn't surprise me. Seems like a classic case of "the grass is always greener... oh wait, no it isn't."