Originally Posted by
Thalendil
I guess it also depends on your role. On my healer (main) I very rarely wipe, as I can carry half the raid taking avoidable damage or just generally failing. Yesterday I did BH on my mage however, and everytime in p1 a tank died and BH oneshotted the 3-4 top dps. The dps left failed in p2 (not going up on the balcony etc). We wiped a couple times until the buff was so high it was practically impossible to die in p1, after which the now alive dps did their jobs.
You really just need a handful of decent players, if those include a tank and a healer you're generally golden.