Did you know,what the crusadeswere realy for?

[Deleted]

It was not to slaughter people in islamic country's it was to stop the rampaging Jihad from the muslims that threathend whole europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ENPy0mqOE


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[Independent voter]

Like most things there were a lot of reasons some of them economic.

[The One Percent]

Your facts aren't welcome here, boy.

*pumps shotgun*

Best go back where ya'll came from.

[Deleted]

Watching the video I kinda feel like both sites are full of shit.

[Netherspark]

Well if a youtube video says it's true, then it must be true.

[Deleted]

Go back to Stormfront.

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

Its too long ago to matter.

[Darkis]

Let's not belittle the downright entertainment value.

[Ratyrel]

So much effort for such a twisted result.

[Booshman]

It was not to slaughter people in islamic country's it was to stop the rampaging Jihad from the muslims that threathend whole europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ENPy0mqOE

Videos from a moronic tin-foil hatter who calls race mixing "white genocide" and has a tribute video to Hitler? On top of the typical Jew blaming. Yea, I'll listen to his drivel, for sure. Lol....

[Sunseeker]

The Crusades were, by and large, about wealth, glory and power. Pretty much like every war ever.

[Deleted]

The Crusades were, by and large, about wealth, glory and power. Pretty much like every war ever.

Absolutely true, the Crusades were a way for nations to gain glory in the eyes of the european people.

On the point at hand, it actually isn't that wrong, the first Jihads were proclaimed way before the crusades started. But by the time of the crusades, this was just an easy excuse of "But they started first!"

[Sunseeker]

Absolutely true, the Crusades were a way for nations to gain glory in the eyes of the european people.

On the point at hand, it actually isn't that wrong, the first Jihads were proclaimed way before the crusades started. But by the time of the crusades, this was just an easy excuse of "But they started first!"

Besides, what is "jihad" except an Islamic term for "holy war". The Crusades were what again? Oh yes, "holy wars".

[Dhrizzle]

1. Access to trade routes with the Far East (wealth).
2. Access to tourist (pilgrim) sites (wealth).
3. An outlet for European warrior culture away from Europe (glory).
4. Imperial ambitions from the inheritors of the Roman Empire (wealth and glory).
5. An "external enemy" to cement bonds between European nations.

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Besides, what is "jihad" except an Islamic term for "holy war". The Crusades were what again? Oh yes, "holy wars".

Jihad actually means a "Holy struggle", so whilst all holy wars are Jihads, not all Jihads are holy wars.

[Sunseeker]

Jihad actually means a "Holy struggle", so whilst all holy wars are Jihads, not all Jihads are holy wars.

Yes, if I recall jihad means something literally like "to struggle" so really it could be anything from a struggle against an enemy to a personal struggle against quitting smoking or something.

[Zoranon]

Facts are not welcome here, go away. While your information is mostly correct, the video is awful.

Quite frankly the image of crusades as an unreasonable aggression on completely peaceful Muslims is far too deep ingrained now to challenge this completely wrong assumption.

[Maelfyn]

Siege of Vienna. Battle of Tours.

[I Push Buttons]

Not really... It was partial glory and power and partial religious fervor... It wasn't to stop Muslims. Byzantium had been fighting wars and pushing back the Caliphates for centuries by the time of the first Crusade and would continue for centuries more after the last Crusade. It was the dark ages in Europe. Life sucked. The Crusades offered religious absolution, opportunity, glory, wealth, etc...

If it was to stop Muslims from expanding then where were the Crusades in the 15th and 16th centuries? You know... When the Ottoman Empire actually invaded Europe and conquered the Byzantine Empire, conquered the entire Balkan Peninsula, invaded the Holy Roman Empire (Siege of Vienna), tried to invade Italy (Battle of Lepanto), etc...?

[Beazy]

The good ol` Christian Jihad. You have to admit, Christians did Jihad WAYYYyyyYYYYY better than the Muslims.

Gotta break a few eggs ~

[Endus]

That's really not a good way to start discussion. Locking this.