Help me with pillar damage

[Tekslol]

I need some serious help doing pillar damage as BM.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/v9hjXC8Z4NxrHzaG

Thats 43 attempts.

Thanks in advance.

[Deleted]

Keep 5 stacks of frenzy, BW, trinkets and racials for pillars.
Make proper use of dash, master's call and kill command charge when you switch target.

[Tekslol]

On many attempts when I did that the pillar dmg still sucked.

[Namor of Muradin]

I find key is target assignment. If you have to run your pet from one side to the other, then you are not going to be as strong on damage. We have hunters follow the same pillar priority as melee, and have the other ranged do the bigger distance swap on 2nd target.

Eg, if first pillar is left, 2nd pillar right, third mid, ranged swap from 1st to 2nd as soon as it pops, then melee/hunter finish 1st and swap to 3rd.

if first pillar is left, 2nd mid, 3rd right, then melee/hunters swap to 2nd pillar as soon as it pops, ranged finish 1st and then swap to third, etc...

[Tekslol]

I find key is target assignment. If you have to run your pet from one side to the other, then you are not going to be as strong on damage. We have hunters follow the same pillar priority as melee, and have the other ranged do the bigger distance swap on 2nd target.

Eg, if first pillar is left, 2nd pillar right, third mid, ranged swap from 1st to 2nd as soon as it pops, then melee/hunter finish 1st and swap to 3rd.

if first pillar is left, 2nd mid, 3rd right, then melee/hunters swap to 2nd pillar as soon as it pops, ranged finish 1st and then swap to third, etc...

Is bad target swapping the entire reason?

[Gaarashatan]

save stampede and use it on the first pillars. as soon as the first one pops up. blow stampede and go all out on it. by the time it dies the one next to it (if it was on the end) should be coming up and you can switch to that, lessening the travel time for your pets. you should be able to pop around 1.50m for the first pillar phase. and if you pot and save cds on 2nd that should be around 2.5m-3m in total

[Deleted]

There's quite a few tries where you simply don't hit the pillars enough. Like in the last try, first pillar, your pet is hitting the boss instead of hitting it. You even manage to get 2 KCs off on the boss instead of the pillar. It sounds like bad pet management. Make sure your send your pet to the pillar right when it spawns and you KC the pillar with your pet already on the way. If you simply target the pillar and KC, the pet will KC the boss instead since it is still it's current target.

There's a few attemps where you have solid damage on the pillars tho. Just make sure your pet attacks the pillar right away when it spawns. Take 3-4 seconds before the boss actually casts it to get control of your pet so you are not late on the pillar. The boss will still die if you lose 3-4 secs worth of DPS every pillar round, but it won't die if you can't actually get the pillars down. Also be patient, you guys have a crappy setup for pillars, boomkins simply rush them all by themselves.

[Deleted]

using stampede on pillars is a big dps loss overall. Not worth it at all.
Also, be at 120 focus and refresh steady focus before they appears.

[Gaarashatan]

using stampede on pillars is a big dps loss overall. Not worth it at all.
Also, be at 120 focus and refresh steady focus before they appears.

indeed it is, but he said he was looking for more pillar dmg and with the avg raids dps give or take, stampede will line up with the 30% hero too

[Rugtoad]

If you're saving FF and BW for pillars and you're still not doing well, it's purely pet management. Is your pet on assist? That can cause it to run around like a maniac sometimes. Use passive and /petattack macros.

[Deleted]

Then he could also be sitting, doing nothing until pillars pops out so he gets all trinkets procs when he starts killing pillars

[Kwaai]

using stampede on pillars is a big dps loss overall. Not worth it at all.
Also, be at 120 focus and refresh steady focus before they appears.

If you're wiping to pillars you should be Stampeding them. You might lose, what, a million damage on Kromog? If you wipe at half a percent then maybe you need to reconsider, but how many half percent wipes happen compared to lack of pillar damage wipes?

[Tekslol]

There's quite a few tries where you simply don't hit the pillars enough. Like in the last try, first pillar, your pet is hitting the boss instead of hitting it. You even manage to get 2 KCs off on the boss instead of the pillar. It sounds like bad pet management. Make sure your send your pet to the pillar right when it spawns and you KC the pillar with your pet already on the way. If you simply target the pillar and KC, the pet will KC the boss instead since it is still it's current target.

There's a few attemps where you have solid damage on the pillars tho. Just make sure your pet attacks the pillar right away when it spawns. Take 3-4 seconds before the boss actually casts it to get control of your pet so you are not late on the pillar. The boss will still die if you lose 3-4 secs worth of DPS every pillar round, but it won't die if you can't actually get the pillars down. Also be patient, you guys have a crappy setup for pillars, boomkins simply rush them all by themselves.

Thanks. This was the issue. You are a savior.

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If you're saving FF and BW for pillars and you're still not doing well, it's purely pet management. Is your pet on assist? That can cause it to run around like a maniac sometimes. Use passive and /petattack macros.

Oh I'll do this too. You're also a savior chip! Everyone who helped thanks

[Deleted]

If you're wiping to pillars you should be Stampeding them. You might lose, what, a million damage on Kromog? If you wipe at half a percent then maybe you need to reconsider, but how many half percent wipes happen compared to lack of pillar damage wipes?

You're absolutely right, but if stampede is the reason you pass the 1st pillars, then you probably won't get through the 2nd pop as stampede will not be available. I would rather try to improve pet management as pichuca and Rugtoad said.

[Deleted]

You're absolutely right, but if stampede is the reason you pass the 1st pillars, then you probably won't get through the 2nd pop as stampede will not be available. I would rather try to improve pet management as pichuca and Rugtoad said.

Second round of pillars is way easier, since you can have all the raid already prepared for them. On the first pillars you can may or may not get a breath in between hands and pillars. If you don't get a breath, then it gets more complicated since the raid is badly positioned or even still killing any remaining hand.