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    Professor fails entire class in frustration

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/28/living...eat/index.html
    http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/state...lass/26507963/

    Basically, fed up with 90% of the class being complete jackwads such as being rude in class, spreading vile rumors, and widespread cheating, he fails the entire class.

    Now I bet most here would be understanding. Cheating is definately a failable offense. Problem is, he also failed students who did nothing wrong to set a point.

    The University is negating the automatic fails, but how do you feel about 1) failing for disrespect and 2) fialing kids who were not part of the problem to make a point? Is this tenure-removal worthy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/28/living...eat/index.html

    Basically, fed up with 90% of the class being complete jackwads such as being rude in class, spreading vile rumors, and widespread cheating, he fails the entire class.

    Now I bet most here would be understanding. Cheating is definately a failable offense. Problem is, he also failed students who did nothing wrong to set a point.

    The University is negating the automatic fails, but how do you feel about 1) failing for disrespect and 2) fialing kids who were not part of the problem to make a point? Is this tenure-removal worthy?
    I don't see how you couldn't deal with it individuall or refuse to curve grades when shit hit the fan on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman View Post
    I don't see how you couldn't deal with it individuall or refuse to curve grades when shit hit the fan on them.
    I personally think the stres sjust got to him and he acted incredibly irrational. I also think, that because he ended up punishing innocent students too, he should lose tenure.

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    Then everyone passes with bell curve?

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    Failing the decent students is completely unacceptable.
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    Honestly he needs to lose his job, failing good students isn't acceptable in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    Failing the decent students is completely unacceptable.
    Agreed. It was a senior level class. Usually by then everyone in their respected major knows everyone and people take it seriously enough.

    Apparently this class was something you'd see from high schoolers though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    I personally think the stres sjust got to him and he acted incredibly irrational. I also think, that because he ended up punishing innocent students too, he should lose tenure.
    I completely agree. Not being in that classroom it's impossible for me to say whether he was a horrible teacher in general for letting it get that bad, but i can say that his reaction shows he is no longer fit to be a teacher. I'd also like to point out that the point of teaching is not to discipline student's it's to teach them. Getting this bent out of shape because kids don't follow the rules makes me think he's one of those authoritarian pricks that makes learning feel like a prison sentence.
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    I don't have a problem with professors failing individual students for beings disrespectful little shits. I do have a problem with punishing everyone for the actions of individuals.
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    Socialism, lol.


    But no I don't get down with the above. Each should be failed as he sees them doing failable offenses. The good ones should get the credit they deserve. Him failing all will just result in all getting over and negate what he was trying to do. He is an idiot.

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    If you got a failure quota of 100% maybe your own competence is the most questionable.

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    I'd love to comment on this, but so far I haven't read enough info on this situation to make a judgement call on who I side with.

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    Honestly when I take a test and I look to my left I always see someone out with their phone cheating. There's always someone cheating.

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    Here's a good video news report about it. The dean of the school is going to be taking over class. The professor in question sounds like he's losing it, even asked for police protection in class at one point. Hard to say what is going on.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...course-n349431
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    Failing the decent students is completely unacceptable.
    This. This guy is a pedagogic failure, if he wants to get them for cheating make an example out of them in the test. I'm sure most universities in the world probably don't even have the right to "lol random fail" you.

    But then...well given what he teaches...

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    I can understand the frustration, but by the sounds of it the reaction is about as mature as the students in the class.

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    I kinda like it.

    Think the student saying "I never had a problem. I was cool." is the problem the professor is addressing. That insularity, narcissism and overly practical modality of thinking that is rooted in how to get along, so to speak.

    I believe the failing grades are not actually allowable though. Colleges usually have pretty strict guidelines for their curriculum's grading. But as a statement it is kinda neat if a little dramatic.

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    That's not how you do it.
    You can create a test that would be impossible to solve for 99% of the students, and then make it impossible to cheat on it. 99 out of a 100 students will fail, but the one that succeeds will be a proof that you gave them a chance.

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    i don't agree with failing people who were not participating in failure-worthy offenses.

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    I had a teacher in high school who would give the entire class detention even if only a handful of students were messing around. It was ridiculous and I rallied a mass walk out after she tried to have me excluded for refusing to show up to a detention that I had no business attending because I had done nothing wrong. It's such a clumsy way to approach problematic students - and it sows the seeds of contempt when innocent students end up being punished unfairly.

    In my eyes it's an abuse of power.

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