If humans were marsupials, when does life begin?

[Grummgug]

Humans are placental mammals, and we debate whether life begins at conception or birth.

But what if humans were marsupials? A Kangaroo is a marsupial. It gives birth after 5 weeks. The fetus actually has to crawl from the vagina, thru the mother's fur, and make its way into the pouch and begin feeding off a nipple. At 5 weeks, a marsupial fetus is capable of doing that. Would that constitute life? Would it be murder to kill a marsupial fetus as it crawls across its mothers body to feed? Or is it only murder once it is strong enough to forage for itself outside its mother's pouch?

[cyndallis]

This thread is going to go places.

[Deleted]

What if jet fuel could melt steel beams?

[Independent voter]

Well, if it can climb up to a nipple and start to feed, I say we give it legal protection.

[Jakexe]

Well, I'd assume when the infant is capable of crawling out of the womans vagina and latching onto a nipple. Which would result in what can only be described as mass filicide and the eventual demise of the human race.

[smackyslap]

What if jet fuel could melt steel beams?

what if fetuses could melt steel beams?

these are the questions that must be asked.

And I guess the same deal we have now before brain function is evident or whatever.

[Super Kami Dende]

What came first, the Chicken or the Egg. At which point do we recognise a Chick from a Fertilised Egg.

[reef]

Well, murder is unlawful killing and it is legal to hunt kangaroo under specific arrangements in Australia. The Australian Department of the Environment actually states that in the particular case of having live young in a killed female's pouch, the young should also be killed.

[Deleted]

If humans were marsupials, we would have special badge wear. And we would need less plastic badges.

[Lord Havik]

Life would still begin moments after conception, when the embryo forms. That's determinable scientifically. (This whole thread's premise is a thinly veiled anti-abortion jab so it's asinine to continue responding to it as if it were hypothetical kangaruman we're talking about. So I'll address the actual question directly.)

What some people in the anti-abortion crowd tend to forget is that not all life counts as a person just because it possesses human dna, nor does all life matter.

The philosophical debate is not over where life begins, but rather, over at what point rights are assigned. This debate has resulted in laws limiting and refining pregnancy termination as we know it.

The current laws of the U.S are medically sound, based upon the discernable point at which a fetus becomes viable, and revoke the right to abort, under normal conditions, at 24 weeks. Prior to that the fetus has no rights under the law and the mother's right to her own biological functions trumps whatever theoretical right the fetus may have to exist.

24 weeks is a fair amount of time to decide to terminate and the fetus can't survive outside the womb until then. It is the most fair of compromises and probably the closest to a quantitatively 'correct' answer.


Something something kangaroos. Something something abortion.

[Kalis]

There wouldn't be any space for a baby in the pouch, they'd fill it full of junk.

[StayTuned]

Imagine if humans were worms. Would life begin with shit? And if so, who was phone?

[Trassk]

I think radiation mutated the species, thats how it grew legs and was able to watch on land.

Obviously evolution doesn't need radiation to explain it, but it be cool to think that we all came from mutations.

Its my hope because maybe one day we're have mutant powers.

[Deleted]

I think radiation mutated the species, thats how it grew legs and was able to watch on land.

Obviously evolution doesn't need radiation to explain it, but it be cool to think that we all came from mutations.

Its my hope because maybe one day we're have mutant powers.

We did come from mutations, that doesn't make them mutant.

[enragedgorilla]

What if Humans were Egg layers?
What if Humans were cold blooded?
What if Human young ate their parents after Birth?
What if Humans aged backwards? Like we were dead(dust even) THEN we lived....then we balled up and went back in?

Magic lamps,Fairy dust and alchemist stones ...

Comparing an entirely different species to another...there is a term for it.

[Deleted]

There wouldn't be any space for a baby in the pouch, they'd fill it full of junk.

bellybutton fluff is bad enough, imagine the fluff in a pouch!

[LucLocke]

Once it made it to the pouch.

[Grummgug]

Life would still begin moments after conception, when the embryo forms. That's determinable scientifically. (This whole thread's premise is a thinly veiled anti-abortion jab so it's asinine to continue responding to it as if it were hypothetical kangaruman we're talking about. So I'll address the actual question directly.)

What some people in the anti-abortion crowd tend to forget is that not all life counts as a person just because it possesses human dna, nor does all life matter.

The philosophical debate is not over where life begins, but rather, over at what point rights are assigned. This debate has resulted in laws limiting and refining pregnancy termination as we know it.

The current laws of the U.S are medically sound, based upon the discernable point at which a fetus becomes viable, and revoke the right to abort, under normal conditions, at 24 weeks. Prior to that the fetus has no rights under the law and the mother's right to her own biological functions trumps whatever theoretical right the fetus may have to exist.

24 weeks is a fair amount of time to decide to terminate and the fetus can't survive outside the womb until then. It is the most fair of compromises and probably the closest to a quantitatively 'correct' answer.


Something something kangaroos. Something something abortion.

Well, someone is a bit sensitive and needs to derail the thread as fast as possible!


Infracted for trolling.

[NineSpine]

Humans are placental mammals, and we debate whether life begins at conception or birth.

But what if humans were marsupials? A Kangaroo is a marsupial. It gives birth after 5 weeks. The fetus actually has to crawl from the vagina, thru the mother's fur, and make its way into the pouch and begin feeding off a nipple. At 5 weeks, a marsupial fetus is capable of doing that. Would that constitute life? Would it be murder to kill a marsupial fetus as it crawls across its mothers body to feed? Or is it only murder once it is strong enough to forage for itself outside its mother's pouch?

1. Life would still begin when the fetus gains sentience.

2. Abortion rights are about the right of bodily autonomy for the mother. So this is a moot point.

[Deleted]

If humans would be cash would life start at purchase?