Cross realm is horrible for mounts...

[Serissa]

Didn't you get the memo?
Cramming more people into the same zone to compete with you for mob tags creates compelling social gameplay.

just imagine how asocial and terrible it might become if they, I don't know, let you share mob tags and roll for who got the drake, or something
then you might get groups in these areas helping one another
like, spreading out to cover more spawn points, and yelling when the rare appears
and like
talking in their downtime
and making new friends

what a horrible asocial experience get that out of my mmo
fight for mob tags with people you'll never see again and get frustrated and then spend more time not-interacting with them
grrr

game design

ROFL. Noone will group untill Blizz implement personal loot there. More people rolling for mount means less chance for you to get it. Solo kill still reward you with 100% chance but in group you have to overroll everyone else. Loooks like modern campers can understand it. Can you?

[Wondercrab]

ROFL. Noone will group untill Blizz implement personal loot there. More people rolling for mount means less chance for you to get it. Solo kill still reward you with 100% chance but in group you have to overroll everyone else. Loooks like modern campers can understand it. Can you?

I'm totally on board with you, they absolutely should implement personal loot for this kind of thing.
My point was that the way it's designed now creates horrible antisocial experiences, and the devs seem to think that this is preferable to designing the game in a way where players are actually encouraged to feel good about having other people around.

[TacoCatt]

Didn't you get the memo?
Cramming more people into the same zone to compete with you for mob tags creates compelling social gameplay.

just imagine how asocial and terrible it might become if they, I don't know, let you share mob tags and roll for who got the drake, or something
then you might get groups in these areas helping one another
like, spreading out to cover more spawn points, and yelling when the rare appears
and like
talking in their downtime
and making new friends

what a horrible asocial experience get that out of my mmo
fight for mob tags with people you'll never see again and get frustrated and then spend more time not-interacting with them
grrr

game design

Blizzard ruined one of the social aspects of WoW when they implemented CRZ into Pandaria yet didn't reduce the world boss spawn times.
Ever do a world boss run? They were fantastic, being with people in the same mindset of collecting mounts, and there was no competition because it was Personal Loot so everyone (usually) got along.
Now no one makes them and if you want a kill you have to sit there camping it. And usually someone comes along and solos it leaving other people to have to camp it for another two hours and these people never ask if anyone wants to make a group. And sometimes if you try to tag them you will get verbally abused by people on your own faction because you "ruined their solo".
Not to mention the amount of abuse you can get from being on a certain server. And people who don't understand CRZ telling you to "go back to your own f**king server".
Yes CRZ makes EVERYTHING SOCIAL AND EVERYONE GETS ALONG PERFECTLY.

[Deleted]

People complain that wow is anti-social

Then people complain that they are seeing too many people out in the world.

I love this website.

There is nothing social about CRZ. Other players are from other realms. You will never see those players again, you can't trade with them, you can't invite them to guild. They are there only to make world look alive without bringing any social aspects of it.

[MrExcelion]

The bigger problem isn't necessarily CRZ. It's the change in the way NPC Scan works. Before, you could just have your game running in the background until NPC Scan picked something up. Now you have to be actively using a targeting hotkey, or watching for the spawn. One day, Aeonaxx... one day...

Agreed, I stopped checking for the white camel figurine because of the 6.0 npcscan change

[Arconome]

Cross realm is horrible for mounts...

Cross realm is horrible

FIFY

[Deleted]

There is nothing social about CRZ. Other players are from other realms. You will never see those players again, you can't trade with them, you can't invite them to guild. They are there only to make world look alive without bringing any social aspects of it.

Which is my main issue. CRZ adds nothing but an illusion of other players while affecting a lot of other stuff negatively. Some days I really think it's mostly so they need fewer servers as they can just throw those together.

[IIamaKing]

The bigger problem isn't necessarily CRZ. It's the change in the way NPC Scan works. Before, you could just have your game running in the background until NPC Scan picked something up. Now you have to be actively using a targeting hotkey, or watching for the spawn. One day, Aeonaxx... one day...

You mean you actually have to PLAY?!?! The nerve.

[Sveri]

You mean you actually have to PLAY?!?! The nerve.

Yea, because I really want to spend the time I actually have to play the game on camping a mount. If I'm going to camp I at least want to be able to do something productive on the side. Watch a movie or a show, work on website designs, etc. :P I don't have enough free time that I can just sit at my computer all day and fly around the Temple of Earth mashing my hotkey.

[Deleted]

You mean you actually have to PLAY?!?! The nerve.

Except, you don't. You stand inactive in a spot for days not actually doing a damn thing hoping to get lucky.

[Random010203]

Lol at people who think CRZ lowers your chances at getting rare mounts when it actually increases your chances. Press I, click premade groups then custom. Find those garrison parties with auto invite. Realm hop all over and you'll find your mount faster than you ever could have before.

Your logic would work, if OP was the only one playing wow, how many players are doing what you suggested now? A lot.

[Deleted]

I like it the way it is.

[Xenonn]

CRZ ruined so much of the game its unbelievable

[amakusa007]

CRZ ruined so much of the game its unbelievable

Cross realm make other things easier such as camping voidtalon, group forming for rares in draenor and MOP Group forming for world bosses in MOP. Rares from cata and below where not present of course for this option so most people take advantage of low pop realms to farm these rare mounts due to massive numbers on their own server. Camping such mounts like the TLPD could be done in matter of hours if lucky but i could also drag to weeks if not months. Camping Aeonaxx, TLPD, White Camel and Seahorse were never meant to be easily acquired.

[Xenonn]

Camping Aeonaxx, TLPD, White Camel and Seahorse were never meant to be easily acquired.

true, not saying it should be obtainable in a few hours or anything but thanks to crz those mounts are close to impossible to get now

[Cinnamohn]

There's a difference between cross realm zoning and server hopping. One is forced upon us, the other is by choice.

[Deleted]

invincible reigns supreme

[tj119]

CRZ and basically all cross realm play is a cancer to WoW. Servers should have been properly merged. BGs are one thing but more times than not in LFD and LFR my experience with other players is just terrible. And these players are allowed to act like dickbags with no repercussions.

[Mhyroth]

Every server-type has it's pro's and cons.
Big servers have an easy time with recruitement and pugging for raids/pvp.
Smaller servers have an easier time gettting rare spawns, sought off items etc...
Abusing a system to hop servers cause you're on a big server and want an easy time (less/no effort) to obtain something rare, is wrong in my opinion.
Imagine all people on low pop servers would hop to the biggest server of their region and crashing it. Everyone would get mad because they all went to a high pop server with hopping, wheras someone on a big server is allowed to but someone on a small one not ?
I obtained all the rare spawn mounts legimately, without server hopping, buying it off the Auction House or friends helping me out. I get a lot more satisfaction doing things the proper way without "abusing" the group finder-system to hop and jump everywhere I want.
Best example is the Voidtalon; every server restart you see 100s of people qeueing/reqeueing on all groups to hop spots to get the portal and to eventually get it mailed to you. Do you have the same level of satisfaction getting the Voidtalon in your mailbox and don't want the experience to click the portal, go to the Edge of Reality, see the Voidtalon Egg etc etc ? Knowing I camped all known spawn points for 3 weeks and kept relogging after a restart made me get it, the satisfaction was immense when you see it pop before your face. I would feel guilty and bad if I had done it jumping servers. People on those servers also deserve a chance before all the insta-hoppers overrun all places.
How would YOU feel to see someone from a different server snag something you camped for weeks before you ?
The mentality of people nowadays is: if it doesn't hurt me, it's allowed and it's all fine, but OH NO if someone else takes advantage of it and steals it in front of me.
You want something ? WORK for it, not press a button and basically make the game do all the work for you. (you higher your chances hopping 30 servers on the same spot,that's true, but you instead of putting alts on all spots, relogging, etc to make things work you do it the easy way.)

I hope to those who snagged stuff with hopping servers will one day get snagged before they can, so they know how it feels if someone takes something away which could have been yours without CRZ/Realm Hoppers.

[Volitar]

People complain that wow is anti-social

Then people complain that they are seeing too many people out in the world.

I love this website.

Just because it phases random people into your game doesn't make it social.