America the centrist

[Emageht Tsoluoy]

Also when I see Fox talk about hot topics, they always put someone on the opposite side on and give them plenty of speaking time

everything about this is wrong on a sub-atomic level.

Climate Change Deniers make up 2% of the scientific community.
Fox represents both the 2% and 98% with equal time and representation.

They don't do this with just Climate Change issues, they do this with ALL issues, and project a false equivalency, as if both 'sides' of the issue are equal in all aspects.

[Kujako]

Climate Change Deniers make up 2% of the scientific community.
Fox represents both the 2% and 98% with equal time and representation.

I've not seen them represent the 98% nearly as much as the 2%.

[zenkai]

The fact they can't agree on anything does not depend on their extreme opposites, but the D and R next to their names. There are many differances, but none of them are what I'd call extreme.

Then explain to me how in the past People like D-Clinton worked with a R-Congress, then you have D-Obama who pretty much told R-Congress to F off that hes going to do what he wants to do

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everything about this is wrong on a sub-atomic level.

Climate Change Deniers make up 2% of the scientific community.
Fox represents both the 2% and 98% with equal time and representation.

They don't do this with just Climate Change issues, they do this with ALL issues, and project a false equivalency, as if both 'sides' of the issue are equal in all aspects.

Throw numbers out your ass without actually watching a program?

[Emageht Tsoluoy]

I'd argue that NPR/PBS does not lean left or right. I listen to it almost exclusively, and they have both Liberals and Conservatives on it.

The problem with listening to 1 source 'exclusively' is it filter's your bias.
Your "Liberal" and "Conservative" may both be "Far Liberal" or "Far Conservative" to someone else.

PBS has always seemed a little 'right of center' to me, but then i grew up in a 'far left' environment.

[zenkai]

I watch a ton of news, from all types of sources and I pay attention to the biasness and how they lean, I distrusts news in general because it's not news is sensationalism and it cracks me up when people only put down one source like Fox and yet let the other ones slide, shows how ignorant people are

[Felya]

Fox is successful because all major media leans left, Fox is the only place you can get the other side of the story, for those of us who are interested in the TRUTH we are forced to read from multiple media sources.

Fox is successful because they are entertaining, nothing more. As of their start, Fox News has grown to be the dominant ratings grabber on cable news, while their political lean has only won one popular vote and that was of an incumbent. Their ratings share and politics are not reflective of national voting.

Also when I see Fox talk about hot topics, they always put someone on the opposite side on and give them plenty of speaking time, where as on places like MSBNC they are just in a room full of people that all agree with each other

Then you missed Rand Paul announcing his previous run on the Rachel Maddow show. The idea that that Fox is the only place to get a balanced rational is self gratifying rhetoric of Fox News. They were not given the slogan of 'fair and balanced' by some independent group, but Fox News own marketing team.

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I watch a ton of news, from all types of sources and I pay attention to the biasness and how they lean, I distrusts news in general because it's not news is sensationalism and it cracks me up when people only put down one source like Fox and yet let the other ones slide, shows how ignorant people are

Because the other side is insignificant in ratings/influence and the idea that there are sides to news created by fox, spits in the face of actual journalists like Murrow.

[Emageht Tsoluoy]

Throw numbers out your ass without actually watching a program?

Ummm no.
I watch Fox News, and CNN, and MSNBC when i am in the mood to watch the news.

Because none of them offer the same viewpoint.

Except for Fox.
Which, every time will be "Gunz, Gummint, Gawd, and (oh heres this other guy off in the corner but watch us talk louder over him, and mock him enthusiastically then cut to commercial)".
Every. Single. Time.

[Spraxle]

Sweeping generalizations do not make for fact. You only see what you wish to see so you tune out stuff that is contrary to your views. You believe that everyone is 'mega far right' when that's just what you want to see. I'd argue more and more people are moving away from the far right. Data on religion shows that more people are less religious now then in the past and most of your argument on the 'right' is centered around the idea they're all religious extremists. Again because that's the image you need to keep your narrative going.

[Emageht Tsoluoy]

I watch a ton of news, from all types of sources and I pay attention to the biasness and how they lean, I distrusts news in general because it's not news is sensationalism and it cracks me up when people only put down one source like Fox and yet let the other ones slide, shows how ignorant people are

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Oh, dont mind this, its not really a post of substance, its just that bright red flashy things will make you notice it more and maybe read what's under it.

This is what Fox News does.

For everything.

[Rukh]

Ummm no.
I watch Fox News, and CNN, and MSNBC when i am in the mood to watch the news.

Because none of them offer the same viewpoint.

Except for Fox.
Which, every time will be "Gunz, Gummint, Gawd, and (oh heres this other guy off in the corner but watch us talk louder over him, and mock him enthusiastically then cut to commercial)".
Every. Single. Time.

Do you love your guns, your god, your government? F---- YEAH!!! - Marilyn Manson - The Love Song

[Lenonis]

Then explain to me how in the past People like D-Clinton worked with a R-Congress, then you have D-Obama who pretty much told R-Congress to F off that hes going to do what he wants to do

Congratulations. You managed to COMPLETELY ignore the Congress piece of the whole puzzle -- which started with "our primary goal is to make Obama a one term president" and twist it around to sound like it's entirely Obama's fault.

Give me a break.

[matchitehew]

This whole post and forum, is nothing but a liberal fuckfest, i seriously do not understand why anyone even post political crap here, it always turns into nothing more than a MSNBC love session, right down to Rev. Al sitting in the corner, bashing anyone who's opinion may differ from there own.

[Jaxi]

Lets start by defining some terms. Which "left" are you referring to? The right of center Democrats, or actual left of center politicians that are almost nonexistent in the US?

The left relative to American politics.

[zenkai]

Congratulations. You managed to COMPLETELY ignore the Congress piece of the whole puzzle -- which started with "our primary goal is to make Obama a one term president" and twist it around to sound like it's entirely Obama's fault.

Give me a break.

Thats not at all what I said but you know keep thinking everyone is wrong every time they have a negative viewpoint against Obama, I guess that makes me Racist too whenever I disagree with him. People like you is whats wrong with this country

[Kujako]

The left relative to American politics.

So the "not as far right". Pity, we could do with an actual left political movement. Likewise we could do with some actual fiscal conservatives.

[Jaxi]

So the "not as far right". Pity, we could do with an actual left political movement. Likewise we could do with some actual fiscal conservatives.

We do have left, in regards to American politics. If we're talking internationally, sure, we're fairly conservative comparatively. However, it is silly to always compare to an international spectrum when we are talking domestic politics.

[Kujako]

We do have left, in regards to American politics. If we're talking internationally, sure, we're fairly conservative comparatively. However, it is silly to always compare to an international spectrum when we are talking domestic politics.

We have a left wing like Obamacare is socialism.

[Jaxi]

We have a left wing like Obamacare is socialism.

I explained twice now that it is silly to continue to use an international scale for "right" and "left" when talking domestically.

[Lenonis]

This whole post and forum, is nothing but a liberal fuckfest

It's a reflection of the high contingent of europeans who frequent here. There are a LOT of conservative topics and posters. There would be even more if they posted things in a less inflammatory manner and desired actual discussion.

[rayden54]

This topic is nothing more than ignorant morons bashing the stereotypical right winged hick.