6.2 BIS list

[Roiids]

My raid leader is asking for a BIS list for 6.2. I can probably piece together my own through wowhead, but was just wondering if anyone has already created this list?

Thanks!

[Valech]

I dont have a BiS list for you. But this might make it easier to go through all the loot:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...suU/edit#gid=0

[bladeXcrasher]

Arms? Fury? Prot?

WF? Sockets?

[Roiids]

Arms? Fury? Prot?

WF? Sockets?

My bad, Fury 2h. WF sockets are random so i dont take those into consideration.

[Jaceo]

This is mine so far based off what is available on PTR, with the different item levels between boss difficulty this may change.

Also providing Crit (30%) > Mastery > Multi > Haste (noting class trinket)> Ver still applies.

Head: Faceguard of Iron Wrath from Kormrok
Neck: Choker of Sneering Superiority from Tyrant Velhari
Shoulders: Pauldrons of Iron Wrath from Xhul'horac
Back: Cloak of Incendiary Wrath from Archimonde
Chest: Chestguard of Ill Fate from Shadow-Lord Iskar
Wrists: Wristplate of the Wretched from Shadow-Lord Iskar
Hands: Gauntlets of Iron Wrath from Soulbound Construct
Waist: Annihilan's Waistplate from Mannoroth
Legs: Legplates of Iron Wrath from Gorefiend
Feet: Stompers of Brazen Terror from Kilrogg Deadeye
Finger1: Thorasus, the Stone Heart of Draenor from Questline
Finger2: Band of Enthralling Delusion from Shadow-Lord Iskar
Trinket1: Worldbreaker's Resolve from Archimonde
Trinket2: Empty Drinking Horn from Mannoroth
Weapon: Fiendsbreath Warmace from Xhul'horac (SMF)
Weapon: Calamity's Edge from Archimonde (TG/Arms)

Trinket: Discordant Chorus from Zakuun (sustained AoE Encounters)

[Warriorsarri]

A tip, link the items from WoWDB rather than Wowhead, and people will be able to simply hoover their mouse over the text and see what item it is, like this: Worldbreaker's Resolve

[Archimtiros]

A tip, link the items from WoWDB rather than Wowhead, and people will be able to simply hoover their mouse over the text and see what item it is, like this: Worldbreaker's Resolve

Just keep in mind that WoWDB sucks and doesn't always have good tooltips. Worldbreaker's Resolve does in fact have a separate Gladiator effect. Also their links like to lag to shit and never pop up.

[Zenlogic]

Has anyone does simming on PTR stuff and figured out the best race? (No idea how to sim PTR) Right now for me Tauren is ~300 dps over belf, was wondering what races look like in 6.2.

For Fury.

[Archimtiros]

Has anyone does simming on PTR stuff and figured out the best race? (No idea how to sim PTR) Right now for me Tauren is ~300 dps over belf, was wondering what races look like in 6.2.

For Fury.

It'll be Tauren/Dwarf as you said, but the difference is so minor it really doesn't matter.

[Zenlogic]

It'll be Tauren/Dwarf as you said, but the difference is so minor it really doesn't matter.

Thanks buddy

[Jaceo]

Just keep in mind that WoWDB sucks and doesn't always have good tooltips. Worldbreaker's Resolve does in fact have a separate Gladiator effect. Also their links like to lag to shit and never pop up.

Yea this. Not a fan of WoWDB for this reason. Sorry the links don't popup guys... Everything is pretty much crit/mastery!

Updated for popups from WoWDB as per Sarri request

[VaevictusVII]

Isn't haste to a certain point better than stacking all the mastery pieces? I mean there should be a piece or two with haste in that BiS list yea?

[Jaceo]

Isn't haste to a certain point better than stacking all the mastery pieces? I mean there should be a piece or two with haste in that BiS list yea?

Even with the haste buff from Worldbreaker's Resolve? I doubt we will need much more haste on our gear with that plus the few tier items that include haste. Could definitely be wrong, nothing is set in stone when basing it off PTR.

[Aquariun]

Even with the haste buff from Worldbreaker's Resolve? I doubt we will need much more haste on our gear with that plus the few tier items that include haste. Could definitely be wrong, nothing is set in stone when basing it off PTR.

Curious to see if our Autoattacks gets parried or misses, will the resolve buff possibly drop off?
Might be better to possibly have some backup haste on gear if it does work like that, but as you say we might just get that off tier stuff

[Warriorsarri]

I'm not sure if the chest is the best off-piece, it's only 720, where as tier is 725. Another argument is that Archimonde drops Doomcrier's Shoulderplates, 10 itemlevels higher than tier, and BiS stats as well.

[Deleted]

Head: Faceguard of Iron Wrath
Neck: Choker of Sneering Superiority
Shoulders: Doomcrier's Shoulderplates
Back: Cloak of Incendiary Wrath
Chest: Breastplate of Iron Wrath
Wrists: Breach-Scarred Wristplates
Hands: Gauntlets of Iron Wrath
Waist: Annihilan's Waistplate
Legs: Legplates of Iron Wrath
Feet: Treads of the Defiler
Finger1: Thorasus, the Stone Heart of Draenor
Finger2: Loop of Beckoned Shadows
Trinket: Discordant Chorus
Trinket2: Empty Drinking Horn
Weapon: Calamity's Edge

ilvl is in most cases better. not sure on the ring but like on boots or wrists you need the haste

- - - Updated - - -

chorus got cut by half, so prob world breaker now bis for st aswell sadly

[Aquariun]

Sorry if the layout is a tad confusing
The decision for off-peice is between Shoulders and Chest so we use the stat priority to figure out which has more benefit

Strength > Crit (till 25%) > Mastery > Haste (between 12-18%) > Multistrike > Versatility

Doomcriers Shoulderplates	vs.	Pauldrons of Iron Wrath
+ 500 Stamina		+ 456 Stamina
+ 333 Strength		+ 304 Strength
+ 260 Crit		+ 168 Crit
+ 184 Mastery		+ 168 Multistrike

You gain 44 Stamina which makes it better
You gain 29 Strength which makes it better
You gain 23 Critical Strike which makes it better
You gain 184 Mastery in exchange for 168 Multistrike which makes it better

Stamped Felsteel Chestplate	vs.	Breastplate of Iron Wrath
+ 580 Stamina		+ 607 Stamina
+ 387 Strength		+ 405 Strength
+ 312 Crit		+ 223 Haste
+ 202 Mastery		+ 316 Multistrike

You lose 27 Stamina which makes it worse
You lose 18 Strength which makes it worse
You gain 312 Critical Strike in exchange for 223 Haste which makes it better
You gain 202 Mastery in exchange for 316 Multistrike which makes it better

now to compare them combined

Doomcrier + Breastplate	vs.	Pauldrons + Felsteel
1107 Stamina		1036 Stamina
738 Strength		691 Strength
260 Crit		480 Crit
223 Haste
184 Mastery		202 Mastery
316 Multistrike		168 Multistrike

My conclusion is that as our off piece we take the shoulders, because even with the losses of Stamina and Strength the additional Crit and extra mastery make it more worthwhile. Even though you lose out on the haste, our Arch trinket will make up for it imo now that we'll be taking it on both ST and AoE (since the Chorus Nerf) and we'll just switch around Drinking Horn and Discordant Chorus based on the fight.

[Deleted]

the problem about worldbreaker is just that you cant switch the target w/o. all but one boss i tested so far requires target switching
so the trinket is way worse than it looks.

[Roiids]

the problem about worldbreaker is just that you cant switch the target w/o. all but one boss i tested so far requires target switching
so the trinket is way worse than it looks.

The ramp up time seems to me short enough that it wont really matter when compared to another trinket per say.

EDIT: btw I appreciate all the math on offset pieces and etc... I am also curious whether or not to get a couple haste pieces with the trinket or just go for pure crit/mastery and take haste on the set pieces/trink.

[Deleted]

its arround 15sec for 2H so if you have to switch every min once you loose 10% of the value
also you probably have to delay your cds until its up