6.2 PvP Gear

[Toppy]

So this is a thing

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/18000120585

Since we started testing the new patch on the public test realm, we’ve taken a lot of time to read a great deal of your feedback on PvP, with a lot of focus on how Versatility items are being handled in Patch 6.2. We want to make sure we’re making our intentions clear regarding Champion’s Strongboxes.

First, it’s important to consider what isn’t changing in the next season. Like any other season, players will be able to acquire a full set of Wild Gladiator gear, including their weapons, by doing nothing more than competing in the Arena and then going to the gear vendor. Play Arenas steadily, and you’ll earn a full set of gear at the maximum ilevel possible for PvP. This ensures that a player can be competitive at the highest levels without ever worrying about Champion’s Strongboxes.

At the same time, when a player wants to pursue a very specific set of gear, we want Patch 6.2 to have some new avenues to do so.

We’re making some items obtainable exclusively from Champion’s Strongboxes, and there are two ways to get them. The first way you can earn a Champion’s Strongbox is by winning 3 rated battlegrounds in a week. Before Patch 6.2, you had a chance to win an item for each of your first 3 wins, but in Patch 6.2 you’re guaranteed to get an item after your third win each week. You can also earn an additional Champion’s Strongbox each week by completing the weekly quest Ashran Dominance.

We’ve heard loud and clear that some players take issue with the fact that Champion’s Strongboxes are only available from Rated Battlegrounds and Ashran. We feel that the unique nature of the reward lends itself well to being obtained via PvP content that is exclusive to an expansion, as Ashran is for Warlords of Draenor. We also like it when a reward like this requires a higher degree of player organization, like Rated Battlegrounds do.

As always, our goal is to make it possible for players to acquire the gear they need to compete and enjoy PvP in WoW, while bringing some variety to the acquisition process. Overall, players will be receiving more gear next season than ever before.

We appreciate your feedback on PvP, and look forward to seeing you out there.

Someone in the thread even pointed out the the post contradicts itself:

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06/05/2015 05:52 PMPosted by Desvin
We’ve heard loud and clear that some players take issue with the fact that Champion’s Strongboxes are only available from Rated Battlegrounds and Ashran.

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06/05/2015 05:52 PMPosted by Desvin
We appreciate your feedback on PvP

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06/05/2015 05:52 PMPosted by Desvin
earn an additional Champion’s Strongbox each week by completing the weekly quest Ashran Dominance

If 1 and 2 were true, 3 wouldn't be true.

So at this point, I'm fairly sure they're just trying to kill PvP in WoD so they can get rid of it altogether with the excuse that no one likes doing it anymore. There is no way they can be this inept unless its on purpose.

[Kagthul]

... because "some people" (read: whiny self-entitled Arena blowhards who feel that they should get every possible reward for doing all activities by only doing one activity) does not equal "most people" or come anywhere close to a "majority of people".

[Deleted]

According to them, players are getting pvp faster in 6.2 than 6.1.

[ElDoorO]

Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm just now waking up, but what I heard is "we hear you loud and clear....... but we're still doing it anyways" as per their normal strategy in this xpac so far. I didn't see any *changes in direction* from our "feedback" they "love hearing".

[Stormspellz]

they obviously aren't listening to feed back

[Deleted]

If Holinka put half as much time into listening and analyzing feedback that he does into getting his one arm abnormally large then we might have a somewhat fun game.

I do think then ext Expac will be good and may draw some people back, this season looks like easy titles tbh.

[Animefreak3K]

You could also continue


http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...joke-about-PvP


instead of creating a new Topic .

To split this topic isn't really helpful.

[Kagthul]

they obviously aren't listening to feed back

Or the feedback isn't as overwhelming as this echochamber thinks it is.

[Toppy]

... because "some people" (read: whiny self-entitled Arena blowhards who feel that they should get every possible reward for doing all activities by only doing one activity) does not equal "most people" or come anywhere close to a "majority of people".

It does equate to most pvpers though.

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You could also continue


http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...joke-about-PvP


instead of creating a new Topic .

To split this topic isn't really helpful.

I apologize, I didnt realize you're topic was concerning the blue post. Should have named it better.

[Itisamuh]

It does equate to most pvpers though.

Actually I'm pretty sure most PvPers don't give a damn about arena either, and would rather gear didn't play a part in PvP at all.

[Toppy]

Actually I'm pretty sure most PvPers don't give a damn about arena either, and would rather gear didn't play a part in PvP at all.

So you're saying that more people RBG than arena?

[Animefreak3K]

I apologize, I didnt realize you're topic was concerning the blue post. Should have named it better.

You don't have to apologize, it's ok .

[Attractive]

Isn't the issue that you'll only be able to get vers offpieces from RBGs? Isn't having to get AShran rep bad enough already? Why make it worse for classes that prioritize that gear? Get rid of Ashran rep requirement and keep gearing the way it works now, it's not broken.

[Kagthul]

So you're saying that more people RBG than arena?

No, hes saying that most people who participate in PvP at the end game (level cap) dont do Arena or rBGs at all. Tthe number of people who do either activity at meaningul ratings (above the "doin this for points 2s" ratings) isnt even in the substantial double-digits. More than 50% of the player base partakes in end-game PvP, but less than 15% do rated PvP seriously.

Its often hard for the Arena/rBG crowd to realize they arent in the majority, and arent even a large minority, of 'PvPers'.

[Stormspellz]

Or the feedback isn't as overwhelming as this echochamber thinks it is.

echochamber would mean its minority fraction, which its not.

[Deleted]

echochamber would mean its minority fraction, which its not.

When he said echochamber he meant literally everyone who ever played pvp, who posts here, who makes youtube wow pvp content or streams wow pvp. Or he doesn't know what the word means.

... You are probably right.

[Illiterate]

"we appreciate your feedback so stfu and do assram"

[Kagthul]

When he said echochamber he meant literally everyone who ever played pvp, who posts here, who makes youtube wow pvp content or streams wow pvp. Or he doesn't know what the word means.

... You are probably right.

No, i meant that the people who post here represent a microscopic portion of the people who participate in end-game PvP. Microscopic doesn't even really cover how small, honestly.

I was referring to the arrogant and unfounded assumption that because the people here believe that Ashran is bad, and the gearing system is bad, that the feedback Blizzard got MUST concur with that assessment - when it most likely didn't, in any way, shape, or form.

The opinion presented here, by and large, aren't shared by the majority of people who play end game PvP. Most of whom dont Arena or rBG, and dont care to. Ever.

More than 50% of level 100 toons participate in end-game PvP. Less than 10% do Arena's and rBGs (combined). Blizzard's own stats and backed up by a few of the Armory data-mines MMO-C has done.

So 4x as many people dont ever do Arena or rBGs as those who do. Guess who Blizzard listens to?

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echochamber would mean its minority fraction, which its not.

you suffer from the delusion that people who post on forums represent the majority of the people who partake in any given activity?

'cause that's what it is - a delusion.

[Deleted]

No, i meant that the people who post here represent a microscopic portion of the people who participate in end-game PvP. Microscopic doesn't even really cover how small, honestly.

I was referring to the arrogant and unfounded assumption that because the people here believe that Ashran is bad, and the gearing system is bad, that the feedback Blizzard got MUST concur with that assessment - when it most likely didn't, in any way, shape, or form.

The opinion presented here, by and large, aren't shared by the majority of people who play end game PvP. Most of whom dont Arena or rBG, and dont care to. Ever.

More than 50% of level 100 toons participate in end-game PvP. Less than 10% do Arena's and rBGs (combined). Blizzard's own stats and backed up by a few of the Armory data-mines MMO-C has done.

So 4x as many people dont ever do Arena or rBGs as those who do. Guess who Blizzard listens to?

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you suffer from the delusion that people who post on forums represent the majority of the people who partake in any given activity?

'cause that's what it is - a delusion.

Out of curiosity, what do you consider end-game pvp?

[Stormspellz]

No, i meant that the people who post here represent a microscopic portion of the people who participate in end-game PvP. Microscopic doesn't even really cover how small, honestly.

I was referring to the arrogant and unfounded assumption that because the people here believe that Ashran is bad, and the gearing system is bad, that the feedback Blizzard got MUST concur with that assessment - when it most likely didn't, in any way, shape, or form.

The opinion presented here, by and large, aren't shared by the majority of people who play end game PvP. Most of whom dont Arena or rBG, and dont care to. Ever.

More than 50% of level 100 toons participate in end-game PvP. Less than 10% do Arena's and rBGs (combined). Blizzard's own stats and backed up by a few of the Armory data-mines MMO-C has done.

So 4x as many people dont ever do Arena or rBGs as those who do. Guess who Blizzard listens to?

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you suffer from the delusion that people who post on forums represent the majority of the people who partake in any given activity?

'cause that's what it is - a delusion.

except it isn't JUST those on the official forums, its not just these forums, or every third party forums, its not just the arena people, or the random bg'rs, and most certainly not ashran.


It seems you suffer from a delusion and 90% of stats are made up

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except it isn't JUST those on the official forums, its not just these forums, or every third party forums, its not just the arena people, or the random bg'rs, and most certainly not ashran.


It seems you suffer from a delusion and 90% of stats are made up

go in a random bg "how is everyone liking pvp in wod" nearly unanimous "sucks" is the answer.