Thread: 144hz Vs 60Hz

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    144hz Vs 60Hz

    So I finally got a display port cord for my new 144hz monitor but I was messing around between the visual differences of 60 and 144 and to be quite honest I didn't feel anything different. Also I don't like the fact that I can't use vertical sync to cap my frame rates to 60fps in my games in 144hz mode. I run a 980ti and when your frate rates are constantly changing from 120 to 127 to 131 to 124 it just feels weird as apposed to a never dipping 60.

    Can anyone please explain to me if I might be missing something?

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    Can you tone down visuals enough that you can reach that 144FPS(and then enable vsync)?

    And yes, if your FPS is constantly changing around while remaining below your monitor's refresh rate, gameplay will look stuttery. GSync was created to eliminate this stutter.

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    In a good monitor there should never be a point where the refresh rate changes visual quality. Things that impact it aside from color settings, calibration, and age are low blue light modes, motion blur reduction, ambient light sensors and uniformity compensation.

    Don't know if you want to, but for games you can set it to 120Hz for your monitor's refresh rate.

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    uhmm i dont understand why would you want to cap to 60 fps your games in a 144hz monitor, that does not have much sense right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alantor View Post
    uhmm i dont understand why would you want to cap to 60 fps your games in a 144hz monitor, that does not have much sense right?
    What? I think you are confused about Vsync. Vsync doesn't cap your frames at 60, its caps them at your monitor's refresh rate (assuming your system can hold that number with the game you are playing). On a 60hz monitor, it will cap it at 60 (or 30 if your system cant hold 60). On a 144hz monitor, it will hold it at 144fps, 72fps, or 36fps.

    If your system isn't powerful enough to pull a constant +144 FPS in games, you wont see much of a difference between it at a lower hz monitor.
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    Did you change your settings to use 144hz in monitor settings?

    Some games do not support 144hz, so that could also be it. Changing from 60hz to 144hz in CSGO made a noticeable difference for me.

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    Coming back this I have one more question that a guess is a lot simpler to me.

    Is there a benefit to even running your monitor at 144hz unless you can run your games at 144fps? I sure as help can't run games like Crysis 3 and Witcher 3 and a constant 144fps and I don't even anyone can for that matter unless you turn down settings. Can you still experience 144hz difference with Vsync turned off or is it just for people who can turn Vsync on and still stay at the high frame rates?

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    thought i had a 60hz monitor for years but was pretty sure it said 144hz when i bought it


    windows updates and driver updates tend to reset the monitor refresh rate down to 60 hz, so you have to go in and set it back up manually

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    You can't see the difference between 60FPS and 100+ FPS ?

    Depend obviously on what kind of games you play, but you should see a difference not in quality (having more frames doesn't means that each frame while be more beautifull) but in sharpness and fluidity (moving things should move smoother and be less blurry)

    https://frames-per-second.appspot.com/ that should make 30 VS 60 vs 120 quite obvious in what improvement you should expect (and also show you if your monitor really is a 120+Hz)
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    All I'm asking is if it's worth running my monitor in 144hz mode even with Vsync off? Is there still a benefit to it even though lets say Im running Witcher 3 at 70fps?

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    Short answer: Generally no.
    Long answer: Gaming and video work differently when it comes to refresh rates mostly because games are rendered on the fly while video is per-rendered. Because of that video processors have an easier time extrapolating the additional frames which is the picture on a 240hz television looks so much sharper and more fluid than a 120 or a 60. It doesn't necessarily work the same way with gaming one because of how little pre-rendering is used and two because a lot of software is designed to run at a native refresh rate. Often times in game and third party bench marks can give you a frame rate that isn't representative of what the game is actually rendering because it's natively programmed to render at 60/70 hz and so on despite what your software is capable of driving. That's not to say some games wont see a distinct benefit from a high refresh monitor, but all in all if what you're playing is only getting 70 fps per second, you're better off turning sync on and and lowering your refresh rate to avoid tearing. And to answer the original question no, there inst really any benefit to leaving the monitor in 144hz, but there's no real draw back to it either as most games shouldn't over tax your system trying to reach it unless they're poorly optimized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agnow View Post
    thought i had a 60hz monitor for years but was pretty sure it said 144hz when i bought it


    windows updates and driver updates tend to reset the monitor refresh rate down to 60 hz, so you have to go in and set it back up manually
    They... shouldn't.

    I had the ASUS ROG Swift 144Hz 1440p monitor for a month and if you can push those frames, it looks AMAZING.

    @OP, instead of being so vague, can you list for us:

    a) The monitor you got.
    b) Your computer's specs.
    c) The games you're trying to run.

    Then we should really be able to help you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodSense View Post
    Short answer: Generally no.
    Long answer: Gaming and video work differently when it comes to refresh rates mostly because games are rendered on the fly while video is per-rendered. Because of that video processors have an easier time extrapolating the additional frames which is the picture on a 240hz television looks so much sharper and more fluid than a 120 or a 60. It doesn't necessarily work the same way with gaming one because of how little pre-rendering is used and two because a lot of software is designed to run at a native refresh rate. Often times in game and third party bench marks can give you a frame rate that isn't representative of what the game is actually rendering because it's natively programmed to render at 60/70 hz and so on despite what your software is capable of driving. That's not to say some games wont see a distinct benefit from a high refresh monitor, but all in all if what you're playing is only getting 70 fps per second, you're better off turning sync on and and lowering your refresh rate to avoid tearing. And to answer the original question no, there inst really any benefit to leaving the monitor in 144hz, but there's no real draw back to it either as most games shouldn't over tax your system trying to reach it unless they're poorly optimized.
    240Hz televisions don't actually exist. Take it from someone who owns one.

    It's only 240Hz for if you choose to do 3D, lol, and even then, no film is done at that rate, much less 120Hz, so it's all with motion blur/letting the computer fill the stuff in between each of those frames.
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    Going to expand a bit on what Deltrus said.

    There aren't really any TVs that are beyond 120Hz input. A TV can refresh at more than that by using frame duplication during signal processing. Take Eizo and LG's 240Hz boost. It takes a 120Hz signal input and replicates it while using a backlight strobe between frames. What that means is it creates an impulse effect like a CRT as opposed to a sample and hold reducing perceived motion blur. TVs more commonly use this as it provides motion clarity.
    While it's not truly taking 240Hz, 480, 600, 960 Hz signals, it's replicating it to gain that refresh rate. It's not a bad thing necessarily but the higher it gets the more input lag that it gains which as opposed to something without it, can actually become a hindrance in games.

    For the Eizo/LG 240Hz boost, it should be noted that this causes a deliberate flicker. Can cause headaches and stuff to some people (like me). It is a bit different from the PWM typically used, so it may affect others differently than the normal PWM.

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