Anyone else think Hellfire High Council is a joke?

[AdrianCC100]

Compared to Maidens, this fight was laughable easy on heroic. Maybe it changes on mythic, but I almost fall asleep during the fight.

[Deleted]

How can you compare them, they are completely different.

[Mrbleedinggums]

How can you compare them, they are completely different.

But they're a council fight. That must mean they're exactly the same!

[galaxyquest]

I agree, very easy fight.

[zyniker]

Compared to Maidens, this fight was laughable easy on heroic. Maybe it changes on mythic, but I almost fall asleep during the fight.

I wish it worked like Maidens in that you wanted all 3 of them to hit 30% at roughly the same time. Might actually make the fight something other than a long trash pull.

[Deleted]

Maidens was intended to be one of the last bosses you kill. So of course it would be harder.

Hellfire council is intended to be one of the first bosses you kill. Bosses that drop the lower ilvl gear than are supposed to be the easier ones.

[Deleted]

Like the first six bosses? Iron maidens was supposed to be the most difficult before Blackhand so if you want to compare, compare them against Mannoroth

[Deja Thoris]

Blizzard just can't win. Make hard bosses people moan, undertune them a bit and people moan.

It's also the 4th boss in an instance, not 8 or 9 like Maidens was *logic*

[Archmage Alodi]

Easiest console fight so far. debuffs could cause a problem if you have low dps , other than that there's nothing hard in this fight.

[galaxyquest]

Blizzard just can't win. Make hard bosses people moan, undertune them a bit and people moan.

It's also the 4th boss in an instance, not 8 or 9 like Maidens was *logic*

who's complaining?

[Deleted]

Like the first six bosses? Iron maidens was supposed to be the most difficult before Blackhand so if you want to compare, compare them against Mannoroth

im sure mythic will be way different but

Heroic maidens had around 20 worldwide kills by the end of Feb 4 (Was released Feb 3),
Heroic furnace had around 120.
Mannaroth has 8 atm ( 2 days after released).

[KaPe]

im sure mythic will be way different but

Heroic maidens had around 20 worldwide kills by the end of Feb 4 (Was released Feb 3),
Heroic furnace had around 120.
Mannaroth has 8 atm ( 2 days after released).

BRF also had 3 less bosses, so...?

[Deleted]

BRF also had 3 less bosses, so...?

Trying to use basic math? If so 30% more bosses doesn't translate to over 50% less amount of kills.

boss isn't overtuned, got him to 30ish% with 45 min worth of attempts but feels harder than any heroic boss in brf save blackhand.

[Deja Thoris]

who's complaining?

The OP, l2r

[EzG]

Mannoroth was, in turns of difficulty, a decent fight before end boss with maidens compared with blackhand. Although I think mannoroth is harder than maidens by a long shot not only because it is a relatively long and repetitive fight but sub 40% if you have no specific strat for the raid to follow you will most likely wipe whereas on maidens you could yolo the last 30% with a lust and not standing by turrets.

That's a tad off topic though. Not all council fights have to be hard. Troll council in ToT wasn't really hard at all and that was the third boss.

[Manstus]

It wasn't terribly difficult, but it seemed appropriate for it's location in the instance.

It has a couple of interesting moving parts, an interesting debuff mechanic, and requires a reasonable strategy and approach to kill it. It's reasonably forgiving on mistakes, but I don't think it was easier than Hellfire Assault or Reaver, perhaps about the same.

So I don't think it was a joke. It was pretty good for it's purpose.

[NightZero88]

The OP, l2r

Learn to realize that there are 6 million people playing WoW and the same people complaining about it being too hard are not the same people complaining it is too easy. Different people have different tastes?! OMG, more news at 11! Also, stop being a dick.