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  1. #221
    Depends on a lot - location, how many dependents you have that rely on you, etc. Back when i was single out of college, not much; now with a wife, it's a lot more haha
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  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Repefe View Post
    Not sure about all the prices in US, but let me try to do a week

    1 whole chicken around 1.2-1.5 kg is 6 portions with bones left to make broth. That's 10 bucks in US ? Frozen vegetables mix + rice let's say another $10. Thats 3 lunches and 3 dinners. $20 spent. 1 kg of pork shoulder should be enough for 4 meals, served either with potatoes or dark bread ... another 20 bucks. That's 5 lunches and 5 dinners. 40 bucks down. Some frozen fish for lunch and dinner on the 6th day, let's say another 15 bucks with some side dishes. We are at 55 bucks, no meat on the 7th day so do some fruits with joghurt or sandwitches with cheese and fruits or veggies. Another 15 bucks to be generous. That's 70 bucks for 7 lunches and 7 dinners. What's left are 7 breakfasts ... buy some great grains cereal and 2 liters of milk ... around 10 bucks ? There you go. 7 day menu for 80 bucks. 20 bucks to spare.

    Don't think you can do a month on 100 bucks.
    That is so off its hilarious.

    Grains/flours are about ~50c per pound

    Cheap meat cuts/minces/sausages are $1-3 per pound

    Milk is a $3-4 a gallon.

    Fruits and vegetables are 50c to $1 a pound for the common foods. you obviously pay more if you want out of season strawberries.

    And a healthy person needs about 2.5 pounds of food per day.

    So, to sum up: half a pound of meat a day, 2 pounds of vegetables, grains and fruits will work out to be ~$2-3 a day.

    So really, the lesson is, stop being a fatty and learn to cook.

    I took the prices from walmart's website, if your wife buys from markets you can buy for even less, as you can buy food that is perfectly fine but doesn't meet supermarket standards (i.e. carrots that aren't perfectly straight, etc)

    Even here in Australia, where everything is more expensive thanks to us not using illegal immigrants for farming and paying store workers three times the american minimum wage, you can live on $3-4 a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Its retarded give someone more money and they will immediately increase their spending and state that they require all of the things they now spend on. Earn £30k live in a nice cottage outside the city and commute in. Earn 60k and move into a town house. Earn £100 have a large detached house in a suburb. Pay all the property taxes and utilities. Upgrade the car. THe more money a person has the more they will spend and convince themselves they couldn't survive on less.

    I think it all sits on ones perception of "average". If we look at humanity as a whole, pretty much anyone who owns a computer of thier own is doing "above average" but they probably don't conisder themselves "well off"
    Most people behave like that. I think the term is "new money"? They're used to living a modest life so when they finally get money they want to rise in the world, they want to be someone and they want people to see they've become someone. They could live on less, they've done it before and they can do it again but they don't want to drop down the social ladder they've bought their way up on. So, as you said, they convince themselves they couldn't live on less.

    Fact is, you can live like a fucking king(In terms of food, clothes, electronics etc) on not much more than 15k euro/year if you really wanted to. For 100k euro/year? Jesus, if you don't mind living modestly you could honestly save so much money, probably 70-80% of your income could go straight into savings, np.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buljo View Post
    Most people behave like that. I think the term is "new money"? They're used to living a modest life so when they finally get money they want to rise in the world, they want to be someone and they want people to see they've become someone. They could live on less, they've done it before and they can do it again but they don't want to drop down the social ladder they've bought their way up on. So, as you said, they convince themselves they couldn't live on less.

    Fact is, you can live like a fucking king(In terms of food, clothes, electronics etc) on not much more than 15k euro/year if you really wanted to. For 100k euro/year? Jesus, if you don't mind living modestly you could honestly save so much money, probably 70-80% of your income could go straight into savings, np.
    Depends on where you live Buljo. 15k Euro a year wont get me very far here in Norway. But if you are unemployed in Norway you get more than that anyways.

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    I'd say 100k/year is more than enough, at least for me, dunno what people are doing with their savings, damn, despite travelling quite much around the world, eating quite much and so on, I only spend about 20-25k/year, that's including tickets for plains/trains/buses, me single though O_o

    I spent few thousands a year more, when I lived and worked in Shanghai, that's number 6 in world's most expensive cities list, depends on the list though. I was buying healthiest shit I could get and, trust me, that's pretty expensive in China, but I still dun get how single people, who rent an apartment, are spending as much money as they claim. WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetinari View Post
    Even here in Australia, where everything is more expensive thanks to us not using illegal immigrants for farming and paying store workers three times the american minimum wage, you can live on $3-4 a day
    BS. No way you can live on $3-4 day in Australia. How the hell do you get to work? Pay your rent/mortgage. A packet of cheap arse sausages from coles is $8 a kilo, so what ~$4 a pound. That alone blows your budget out.

    Don't get my wrong we have a lot of advantages living here, but is far from cheap, a person living in Sydney/Melbourne with a mortgage earning $100k (about 76k US) would not be wealthy.

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    Depends on where you live Buljo. 15k Euro a year wont get me very far here in Norway. But if you are unemployed in Norway you get more than that anyways.
    It's a relative sum, of course. As a Swede I could live better than the average Swede on a Norwegian welfare check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buljo View Post
    It's a relative sum, of course. As a Swede I could live better than the average Swede on a Norwegian welfare check.
    Not entirely true. The average income in Norway is around 40-50% higher than Sweden. Still welfare(if you have no former work to show for) is lower than the Swedish average pay. But its a reason why so many swedes come to Norway to work. When a Norwegian Restaurant worker has an average pay around the same level as Bach/master level work in Sweden.

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    It all comes down to where you live as well as family/ required expenses.

    I mean with 1k euro a month you can live well in Bulgaria (even in Sofia i'd argue that its good).
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    is it all before or after taxes, because in some places it's quite a difference..
    Our government (and all their shit) takes about 40% of my salary, so the numbers differ greatly..
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    To the US residents among us: What the hell are property taxes and why do you have to pay them!?

    Also: Do you really have to pay $3,000 a year for health care? That's mental. God bless the NHS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navitas View Post
    To the US residents among us: What the hell are property taxes and why do you have to pay them!?

    Also: Do you really have to pay $3,000 a year for health care? That's mental. God bless the NHS!
    NHS - you from UK?

    Heard of Council Tax? I'm assuming its basically the same thing. The bigger or more valuable your house is, the more you pay towards civic upkeep.
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    50k a year is well off here on 1 salary.
    I currently earn 35k in euro's . So does my girlfriend. So together we have 70k. Tax rate 33%.

    Rent, groceries, insurances, etc. Costs us 1600 a month. We have roughly 2000 euros to spend freely each month. Most go into saving though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navitas View Post
    To the US residents among us: What the hell are property taxes and why do you have to pay them!?

    Also: Do you really have to pay $3,000 a year for health care? That's mental. God bless the NHS!
    I pay 400 bucks a month for Kaiser. That's like 5 grand a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    NHS - you from UK?

    Heard of Council Tax? I'm assuming its basically the same thing. The bigger or more valuable your house is, the more you pay towards civic upkeep.
    Yeah, UK.

    Ah, of course. Makes sense. Just seems like a lot. I think my council tax is around £120 a month. Don't know 100% as I don't deal with the bills!

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    I pay 400 bucks a month for Kaiser. That's like 5 grand a year.
    Damn.

    127 here, and thats because i have an extra dental plan.
    Maybe socialism not that bad afterall huh

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    I've barely been surviving on ~13k a year. Doubling that I would be able to live fairly comfortably, but still have to maintain limits on spending. Doubling that to roughly 50k, good lord, I would really have more money than I'd know what to do with. So anything over 50k would be absolutely wonderful, unless you're a spending whore and just drop money on anything and everything because you can.

    I don't require a large house, and my 'dream car' would run me all of about $30k. I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs, all I really do is eat, sleep, go to work, and game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    Damn.

    127 here, and thats because i have an extra dental plan.
    Maybe socialism not that bad afterall huh
    Paying nothing for health care is the best. Long live the NHS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navitas View Post
    Paying nothing for health care is the best. Long live the NHS!
    is it really "paying nothing"? In my country they take part of my salary to cover national health care system. Yes, I don't have to suddenly pay 100k when I get sick, but they still take some money off off me every month.. So basically whole country gathers money, so the system can treat me when I'm sick..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoBytom View Post
    is it really "paying nothing"? In my country they take part of my salary to cover national health care system. Yes, I don't have to suddenly pay 100k when I get sick, but they still take some money off off me every month.. So basically whole country gathers money, so the system can treat me when I'm sick..
    We pay national insurance (which is about 8% of our salary I think) which covers health care, unemployment and housing benefits (I'm sure disability benefit and others are in there too) and towards pensions. So, yes, technically health care isn't 'free' as we pay for it in part through NI but it also covers a lot more than just that. I don't mind paying my way to help the less fortunate and elderly of the UK. You never know if you might need it yourself one day.

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