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    Denmark produces 140 percent of its electricity needs through wind power

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-10381648.html

    Due to an unusually windy day, wind farms in Denmark managed to produce 140 per cent of the country's electricity needs.

    By Thursday evening, the Nordic nation's wind turbines were producing 116 per cent of Denmark's electricity needs, a figure that rose to 140 per cent in the early hours of the morning.

    As reported by The Guardian, 80 per cent of the surplus power was shared between Germany and Norway, with Sweden taking the 20 per cent left over.

    The figures were noticed by the paper on energinet.dk, a site which shows the power output of Denmark's wind farms in real-time.

    Oliver Joy, spokesman for the European Wind Energy Association, said: "It shows that a world powered 100 per cent by renewable energy is no fantasy."

    In contrast to the UK policy on onshore windfarms, which will cease to be subsidised by the Government next year, wind power has a strong backing from the Danish government.

    While wind levels yesterday were much higher than normal, it is estimated that Denmark could be producing half of its energy from renewable sources before 2020. The government aims to be producing 84 per cent of Denmark's electricity needs through wind power by 2035.

    Wind power is already responsible for 29 per cent of the electricity generated there. While coal is still the main energy source in Denmark, the country is still one of the world leaders in renewable energy production.







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    People hate living by those wind turbines for some reason. If you're going to build a wind farm here, expect lawsuits from your neighbors.
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    Doesnt global warming cause more powerful weather? It cant hurt to harness ultra windy days.
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    No wind for 2 whole weeks

    Government: "Sorry folks, but mother nature doesn't feel like being cooperate. So we're gonna start having those daily blackouts because 300/365 days of the year we don't get crazy winds to power our country"

    Do you know how many fucking places in the world get consistently strong enough winds to make Wind Farms actually economical? Very few, the rest of the 99.9% of the world suffers from daily "lack of high windy areas".




    And what the fuck is with this "Denmark get's powered for a whole day" it's a 5 million population country, that fits less than a fucking 0.1% of the world's population, woopie fucking do.




    While we're at it, lets have new job openings for idouts to pick up the thousands of dumbass birds that die because of them, and have a whole new scientific religion on how disrupting the world's Air Currents that encircle the globe is being fucked up by those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    People hate living by those wind turbines for some reason. If you're going to build a wind farm here, expect lawsuits from your neighbors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    People hate living by those wind turbines for some reason. If you're going to build a wind farm here, expect lawsuits from your neighbors.
    They're all over Oklahoma. Oklahoma has lots of cheap land though. Generally people in Oklahoma don't hate them. You don't put them in your back yard in a neighborhood though.
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    Good thing we aren't dwellers of the ocean or else we would sue ourselves to dead.

    We have to realize that our current life style is a huge live threatening gamble and just set EVERYTHING on nuclear fusion! It's either everything or nothing - problems solved (either way)!

    If you are honestly against this you are either someone who loves to struggle from the same disease over and over again till doping dead or you actually are an ANTI-EVOLUTION-actor who actually thinks realistic (nobody loves these types).
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    Man, 2020 sounds so far away.. it's only 5 years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    If you are honestly against this you are either someone who loves to struggle from the same disease over and over again till doping dead or you actually are an ANTI-EVOLUTION-actor who actually thinks realistic (nobody loves these types).
    Im all for wind, solar, fusion power. But I don't see how being skeptical of wind power would then be connected to a biological process.

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    Way to go, Denmark! Still doesn't make wind power actually viable, but it's a great story. Can't ignore the whole "Denmark is attached to a European power grid so it buys power from baseload plants when the wind isn't windy" thing, which basically means that Denmark is simply geographically displacing its pollution to other EU countries but still, great clickbait.

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    This is why wind power must be stopped



    Windmills kills birds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    People hate living by those wind turbines for some reason. If you're going to build a wind farm here, expect lawsuits from your neighbors.
    Do they not hate living next to coal power plants?
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    A big problem with wind turbines, is that the energy output is unreliable, so you have to combine wind power with other sources of electricity. For example coal powered plants, which cannot be considered green. Cost is another problem. Wind turbines on the sea are very expensive to build, and during peak hours danish wind parks often have to pay (!) to get rid of their excess electricity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurkuris View Post
    No wind for 2 whole weeks

    Government: "Sorry folks, but mother nature doesn't feel like being cooperate. So we're gonna start having those daily blackouts because 300/365 days of the year we don't get crazy winds to power our country"

    Do you know how many fucking places in the world get consistently strong enough winds to make Wind Farms actually economical? Very few, the rest of the 99.9% of the world suffers from daily "lack of high windy areas".




    And what the fuck is with this "Denmark get's powered for a whole day" it's a 5 million population country, that fits less than a fucking 0.1% of the world's population, woopie fucking do.




    While we're at it, lets have new job openings for idouts to pick up the thousands of dumbass birds that die because of them, and have a whole new scientific religion on how disrupting the world's Air Currents that encircle the globe is being fucked up by those things.
    Yeah, the forum trolls living in their mother's basement that did a 5 minute internet research while sitting on the toilet don't believe that the system works.
    You have a thing called load balancing in which the excess energy is stored as a gravitational potential energy, so if you have 140% load during one time and 60% in another, you can balance it.
    By the way, solar is even more efficient, you can literally power the entire world with 500 000 square kilometers (around the size of California) of solar panels. That's like 0.3% of the world's land area. The Sahara desert alone is 9.4 million square kilometers, it has space for 18 times the solar panels required to power the entire world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haxartus View Post
    Yeah, the forum trolls living in their mother's basement that did a 5 minute internet research while sitting on the toilet don't believe that the system works.
    You have a thing called load balancing in which the excess energy is stored as a gravitational potential energy, so if you have 140% load during one time and 60% in another, you can balance it.
    By the way, solar is even more efficient, you can literally power the entire world with 500 000 square kilometers (around the size of California) of solar panels. That's like 0.3% of the world's land area. The Sahara desert alone is 9.4 million square kilometers, it has space for 18 times the solar panels required to power the entire world.
    That isn't what Denmark uses to balance out their demand, though. Literally, Denmark sells excess electricity and buys electricity when it runs a supply deficit. Denmark doesn't have grid level storage, and it doesn't even have plans to roll out full-level grid storage, but a PEV storage scheme by 2020. Just because you're wrong doesn't make someone a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukh View Post
    They're all over Oklahoma. Oklahoma has lots of cheap land though. Generally people in Oklahoma don't hate them. You don't put them in your back yard in a neighborhood though.
    True. I live in the rural areas near the panhandle. I have like 7 wind farms within a 30 min drive of my house. Closest is half a mile away.

    Granted most of the people around here also own their land (like in the dozen to hundred acre plots) every single one of those wind mills are on leased land that is making people money on property that isn't doing anything for the owner but looking dry and growing tumbleweeds.
    The Right isn't universally bad. The Left isn't universally good. The Left isn't universally bad. The Right isn't universally good. Legal doesn't equal moral. Moral doesn't equal legal. Illegal doesn't equal immoral. Immoral doesn't equal illegal.

    Have a nice day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadiru View Post
    That isn't what Denmark uses to balance out their demand, though. Literally, Denmark sells excess electricity and buys electricity when it runs a supply deficit. Denmark doesn't have grid level storage, and it doesn't even have plans to roll out full-level grid storage, but a PEV storage scheme by 2020. Just because you're wrong doesn't make someone a troll.
    To be fair the post he was responding to wasn't exactly correct either. As long as they have a way to deal with both shortages and excess there's no reason to oppose wind power especially in a place like Holland where it makes too much geographical sense to not do it.

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    If you are against expanding wind to this level you are one of 2 things, really fucking stupid or the Koch brothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fengosa View Post
    To be fair the post he was responding to wasn't exactly correct either. As long as they have a way to deal with both shortages and excess there's no reason to oppose wind power especially in a place like Holland where it makes too much geographical sense to not do it.
    I don't oppose wind power on principle, I just find this jerking off about how amazing it is to be absurd. Especially in a country that doesn't appreciably store its excess, but sells it and then buys power produced by "dirty coal plants" (or even more imbecilic, dirty nuclear plants.) Renewables with no storage capacity is effectively just outsourcing its pollution.

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