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    Saudi Arabia borrows $4B as oil price reality hits home

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/12/finan...hits-home.html

    Saudi Arabia has borrowed $4bn from local markets in the past year, selling its first bonds for eight years as part of efforts to sustain high levels of public spending as oil prices slump.

    Fahad al-Mubarak, the governor of the Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency, said the government would use a combination of bonds and reserves to maintain spending and cover a deficit that would be larger than expected.


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    "We expect to see an increase in borrowing," he said, according to a report in the economic daily Al-Eqtisadiah newspaper over the weekend. Analysts have estimated a deficit of about $130bn this year. The government, which had not tapped bond markets since 2007, has been dipping into its large foreign reserves, which peaked at $737bn last August, to sustain spending on wages, special projects and the Saudi-led air war on Yemen. It has drawn down $65bn since oil prices fell.

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    Bonus payouts for state employees and the military made by the new king, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, have placed further pressure on state coffers. "Reality is hitting home, and necessity is also hitting home," said John Sfakianakis, director for the Gulf region at Ashmore, a fund manager.

    Saudi Arabia needs an oil price of $105 a barrel to meet planned spending requirements, but the average price for the year is estimated at $58 a barrel, he said. "If the government continues business as usual and draws down like this it will deplete reserves faster than expected, by the end of 2018 or early 2019," added Mr Sfakianakis.

    The issuance of domestic bonds should ease the rate of drawdown on Sama's overseas assets, which declined to $672bn in May. The domestic bond programme marks a shift in strategy as the sustained slump in oil prices takes its toll on Saudi finances.


    Analysts initially doubted that the government would respond to the fiscal challenge by borrowing, seeking to avoid the parlous state of the state coffers in the late 1990s when domestic debt had risen to about 100 per cent of gross domestic product. Saudi domestic debt had fallen to 1.6 per cent of GDP at the end of 2014.

    But analysts say the oil-price decline could be more profound than initially thought. Sama forecasts GDP growth to decline from 3.5 per cent in 2014 to 2.8 per cent this year. Non-oil sector GDP growth, which is vital for creating jobs for the growing legion of unemployed youths, is expected to decline from 5 per cent to 4.7 per cent over the same timeframe.

    The government's sovereign issuance will provide a benchmark for other private sector and state-related entities looking to borrow from capital markets, diversifying sources of funding away from a banking system that could see liquidity fall on lower oil prices.

    The regulator has made reforms in debt capital markets a priority this year after opening up its large domestic market to foreign asset managers last month. The IMF is urging the government to trim spending on public sector salaries and subsidies to improve the fiscal balance, but reforming payouts to a population used to state largesse could trigger a potentially negative political impact. Given the size of the deficit, Riyadh may choose to extend its sovereign bond programme to international markets to allow local institutions to continue to fund the domestic private sector. "They will have to turn to overseas markets eventually," said one Riyadh-based executive with a foreign lender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    I wonder if the weakening position of the house of saud is part of the reason we pretty much told them to fuck off and made the deal with iran anyway.

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    Iran's oilfields now coming back online aren't going to help Saudi Arabia either. Makes you wonder why Saudi Arabia was so against the nuke deal with Iran....
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    The US government has offered a 3 million dollar prize to anyone that can create a cure for marijuana addiction.
    They should offer similar incentive for fossil fuel dependency.
    But that would be counter productive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brimdog View Post
    The US government has offered a 3 million dollar prize to anyone that can create a cure for marijuana addiction.
    They should offer similar incentive for fossil fuel dependency.
    But that would be counter productive.
    This has to be nonsense right?

    Please tell me this is nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    This has to be nonsense right?

    Please tell me this is nonsense.
    This is nonsense?

    But really I have no idea

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    OPEC has a serious problem. IF they cut then US increases and takes more shares.

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    I also want to see how the iran deal will impact them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Iran's oilfields now coming back online aren't going to help Saudi Arabia either. Makes you wonder why Saudi Arabia was so against the nuke deal with Iran....
    Nail on the head

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    So much for "OPEC runs Bartertown." All the conspiratorial theorists must be scratching their heads, figuring out just what went wrong.

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    $50 oil price is here to stay.

    Saudi Arabia has 2000 princes and produce nothing but oil.
    It is lucky to have that much money in the bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brimdog View Post
    The US government has offered a 3 million dollar prize to anyone that can create a cure for marijuana addiction.
    They should offer similar incentive for fossil fuel dependency.
    But that would be counter productive.
    Just ask any pot head. They "can quit anytime".
    I also thought that THC was non addictive. According to potheads, at least...

    /cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    $50 oil price is here to stay.

    Saudi Arabia has 2000 princes and produce nothing but oil.
    It is lucky to have that much money in the bank.
    Tis what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket.

    /cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by brimdog View Post
    The US government has offered a 3 million dollar prize to anyone that can create a cure for marijuana addiction.
    They should offer similar incentive for fossil fuel dependency.
    But that would be counter productive.
    They also dumped money into research for a bomb to turn enemy soldiers gay..
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Supposedly here in Utah the prices of gasoline are going to be going down back to $2.00 levels because of the deal in Iran... We'll see about that.

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    How does that influence Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    How does that influence Russia?
    Russia needs 100$ oil plain and simple. They are in a full out depression. Some people do not realize that Dodd/Frank kicked ALOTTTTTTTT of the Hedge funds out of manipulating the oil price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    How does that influence Russia?
    Same as Saudi Arabia.
    It produces nothing but oil.

    Plus the Russian military is expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    Same as Saudi Arabia.
    It produces nothing but oil.

    Plus the Russian military is expensive.
    Shalcker said they have a positive tradebalance yes but that doesn't balance their budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    This has to be nonsense right?

    Please tell me this is nonsense.
    If someone had a cure for marijuana addiction which would likely lead to a cure for addiction in general.. that person would be getting a lot more than 3mil I tell ya that.

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