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  1. #21
    Lore just said "We intend to address it in PvP." Regarding the affliction buffs.

    They will most likely fix it like they fixed barrage, like "Agony now deals xx% of the damage in PvP combat".

  2. #22
    Please note that the following class tuning changes are still in-testing.
    So guys calm down a bit .

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Animefreak3K View Post
    So guys calm down a bit .
    Yeah... they have proven before that they fix broken things from testing until live etc... oh wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christhammer View Post
    Lore just said "We intend to address it in PvP." Regarding the affliction buffs.

    They will most likely fix it like they fixed barrage, like "Agony now deals xx% of the damage in PvP combat".
    One can only fucking hope so. These changes are ridicolous to have even been applied before "addressing" it...

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Koenig View Post
    remember back when aspect of the hawk was still a thing? good times
    Aspect of the Hawk buffs vs. Shamanism Buffs.


    Aspect Patch History

    Hotfix (2014-01-06): "Aspect of the Hawk now increases ranged attack power by 35% (up from 25%)." (Buff)

    MoP Patch 5.3.0 (2013-05-21): Now increases ranged attack power by 25%, up from 15%. (Buff)

    Hotfix (2012-11-27): "Aspect of the Hawk and Aspect of the Iron Hawk now increase ranged attack power by 15% (was 10%)." (Buff)

    MoP Patch 5.0.4 (2012-08-28): Now increases attack power by 10% instead of a fixed amount. (Buff)

    Cataclysm Patch 4.3.2 (2012-01-31): Now grants roughly 35% more attack power. (Buff)

    Hotfix (2011-02-22): "Aspect of the Hawk now provides 2000 attack power at level 85." No Clue

    5 Times buffed by patch / Hotfix.


    Shamanism:

    Hotfix (2014-10-30): Now increases [Lightning Bolt]'s damage by 70% (up from 36%). (Buff)

    MoP Patch 5.2.0 (2013-03-05): Now increases the damage of Lightning Bolt by 70% (was 50%). (Buff)

    MoP Patch 5.0.4 (2012-08-28): No longer causes spells to have additional benefit from spell power. Now increases damage done by Lightning Bolt by 50% and Chain Lightning by 70%, and removes the cooldown from Chain Lightning. Rework

    Cataclysm Patch 4.3.0 (2011-11-29): Now increases the spell power benefit to Lightning Bolt, Lava Burst, and Chain Lightning by 36%, up from 32%. (Buff)

    Hotfix (2011-07-26): "Shamanism (Elemental passive) now causes Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, and Lava Burst spells to gain an additional 32% benefit from the shaman’s spell power, up from 20%." (Buff)

    Cataclysm Patch 4.0.1 (2010-10-12): This talent is now 1 rank given when a player chooses the elemental specialty. Reduced lightning bolt casting time was added as well. Rework


    WotLK Patch 3.2.2 (2009-09-22): This talent now provides 4/8/12/16/20% extra spell damage to Lightning Bolt/Chain Lightning, up from 3/6/9/12/15%, and 5/10/15/20/25% to Lava Burst, up from 4/8/12/16/20%. (Buff)

    WotLK Patch 3.2.2 (2009-09-22): Your Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning spells gain an additional 3/6/9/12/15% and your Lava Burst gains an additional 4/8/12/16/20% of your bonus damage effects. (Buff)

    6 times buffed by Patch / Hotfix.


    Don't fuck with Shamanism when it comes to Buffs, this tuning knob probably fell off considering how many times Blizzard turned on this one.
    Last edited by Kralljin; 2015-07-21 at 12:46 PM.

  5. #25
    The amount of people in this topic that wants the game to be balanced around 2s is too damn high.

    Proof:
    1) Asking for shadow priest buffs currently highest representation in history, multiple R1 viable comps)
    2) Crying about hunter buffs (worst DPS class representation an almost worst overall representation, only beating monks which is the least played class in the game)
    3) Crying for ret buffs, which currently sit at 0.4% representation.
    Last edited by Knolan; 2015-07-21 at 02:39 PM.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Animefreak3K View Post
    So guys calm down a bit .
    Literally the only reason they even type that anymore is so they can get away with it. They have shown time and time again that the first iteration is the launch iteration. Regardless of whether it is almost universally hated, time allocated to change it, or if they even like it themselves. Want a good example? They devastated the warrior class both on arms and fury. They had 6months to undo this mess. They even said themselves multiple times it wasn't their vision. Yet here we are. over a year later, with the first iteration.

    "its beta"

    "its ptr"

    "not final"

    bullshit.

  7. #27
    Where's the Holy Pala dps nerf???

  8. #28
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    These aren't pvp buffs, they just buffed a load of crap that has no influence in pvp (dragon breath damage?) or a bunch of dots. PVE changes.

  9. #29
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    the people complaining about warlocks must be hunters

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    the people complaining about warlocks must be hunters
    And the sad thing is that locks never countered hunters. Being able to do damage, but still not optimal damage is a counter? But but but dots and deterrence....

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    Quote Originally Posted by purebalance View Post
    And the sad thing is that locks never countered hunters. Being able to do damage, but still not optimal damage is a counter? But but but dots and deterrence....
    Moonkins and demo/aff locks bitchslap hunters into the stoneage while being semi-afk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purebalance View Post
    And the sad thing is that locks never countered hunters. Being able to do damage, but still not optimal damage is a counter? But but but dots and deterrence....
    Hmmm I think warlocks (especially affliction) make hunters cry.

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    Hunters cry about any class you throw at them.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Curlyfry View Post
    So many of you seem surprised Blizzard is balancing around PvE like always and not PvP. WoW is a PvE game first, then PvP. I feel sorry for anyone who chose WoW to exclusively PvP; not because I think you are an idiot but because the game will never be built with you as a player in consideration first.

    Most of you commenting must either never PvE or are new to WoW this expansion.
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Juke Boxer View Post
    These aren't pvp buffs, they just buffed a load of crap that has no influence in pvp (dragon breath damage?) or a bunch of dots. PVE changes.
    They are obviously not buffs intended for pvp but guess what... A buff that affects damage in pve also affects damage in pvp.
    (Unless specifically stated that it works different in pvp)

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Trematode View Post
    Hmmm I think warlocks (especially affliction) make hunters cry.
    Except now it will be 15 seconds of Bestial Rawr + caw caw caw + barrage caw = warlock no more...caw!

  17. #37
    I've stayed out of arena and RBGs this season and I've been having a lot more fun.

    WoW ain't worth taking seriously. Season after season of being disappointed with changes and just not understanding their direction, I found it far easier to just let it go.

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    >Elemental
    >Buffed

    Please tell me more how this will change anything. Mastery's our worst statistic and an abysmal 11% won't change anything, and the cooldown reduction on Ascendance is a 3% damage increase at the most. The only thing it really does is force us to use Elemental Mastery which is a horrible way to do things.

    Still waiting for proper buffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix19 View Post
    Except now it will be 15 seconds of Bestial Rawr + caw caw caw + barrage caw = warlock no more...caw!
    in a duel?

    lol

    glyph of drain life + drain life talent

    and the warlock wins with 90% + hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix19 View Post
    Except now it will be 15 seconds of Bestial Rawr + caw caw caw + barrage caw = warlock no more...caw!
    Warlock will just stand there and drainlife then Hunter will interrupt, warlock will healthstone and keep drainlife. (Especially now that they buffed it)

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