Illegal immigrants to UK face eviction without court order under new plans

[Deleted]

Illegal immigrants exist.

Pointless and an act of stupidity to debate otherwise.


The End.

[procne]

Illegal immigrants exist.

Pointless and an act of stupidity to debate otherwise.


The End.

Noone says otherwise. I think you might want to actually reread what you, and other people, were saying

[Kronik85]

Noone says otherwise. I think you might want to actually reread what you, and other people, were saying

I think at this point it's pretty safe to say that reality isn't exactly where Mmomaths resides. Assertions are more their thing, facts like that no has said that illegals don't exist, just pointed out that like his perceptions of everything about this issue are incorrect are as foreign to him as the people he loathes.

Illegal immigration is a problem, but it doesn't take jobs out of the hands of UK residents (unless they like being worked like slaves, or becoming a drug dealer to pay off the gang boss that got you into the country in the first place), they can't claim your benefits and any UK employer that knowingly employs illegals is a criminal and therefore subject to all the relevant punishments if caught.

If a business is employing Illegals to undercut good honest British businesses then which industries could this be prevalent in? Manufacture? Nope we don't make full all in this country and what we do make is high end goods, not slave labour fare. Services? Call centres staffed by Illegals to create the illusion your on the phone to someone in India when in fact, jokes on you buddy! This one is based in the UK!

The only feasible places they could be working is either on farms, getting bussed out by gang masters to pick crops (jobs UK citizens don't seem to want) or the harrowing Morecambe Bay incident where chinese gang bosses let people drown to pick cockles or in your local ethnic (can we still use that word?) restaurant working as a chef. Is any of this particularly impactful on the job prospects of a UK citizen or the UK economy? No.

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I think at this point it's pretty safe to say that reality isn't exactly where Mmomaths resides. Assertions are more their thing, facts like that no has said that illegals don't exist, just pointed out that like his perceptions of everything about this issue are incorrect are as foreign to him as the people he loathes.

Illegal immigration is a problem, but it doesn't take jobs out of the hands of UK residents (unless they like being worked like slaves, or becoming a drug dealer to pay off the gang boss that got you into the country in the first place), they can't claim your benefits and any UK employer that knowingly employs illegals is a criminal and therefore subject to all the relevant punishments if caught.

If a business is employing Illegals to undercut good honest British businesses then which industries could this be prevalent in? Manufacture? Nope we don't make full all in this country and what we do make is high end goods, not slave labour fare. Services? Call centres staffed by Illegals to create the illusion your on the phone to someone in India when in fact, jokes on you buddy! This one is based in the UK!

The only feasible places they could be working is either on farms, getting bussed out by gang masters to pick crops (jobs UK citizens don't seem to want) or the harrowing Morecambe Bay incident where chinese gang bosses let people drown to pick cockles or in your local ethnic (can we still use that word?) restaurant working as a chef. Is any of this particularly impactful on the job prospects of a UK citizen or the UK economy? No.

False.

Self employed landscape gardener quotes for a job that costs 1,000. Landscape gardener nets 770 after tax and national insurance is paid.

Illegal immigrant quotes to do the job for 770 because he doesnt have to pay tax or national insurance.


It is entirely and utterly false in every sense of reality to say illegal immigrants dont take jobs over natives.


For the unskilled illegal immigrants, they often deal drugs to get cash.


There is not a single positive that an illegal brings. Only negatives.


I dont loathe the person, i loathe the situation, social and economic damage they create.

[Kronik85]

False.

Self employed landscape gardener quotes for a job that costs 1,000. Landscape gardener nets 770 after tax and national insurance is paid.

Illegal immigrant quotes to do the job for 770 because he doesnt have to pay tax or national insurance.


It is entirely and utterly false in every sense of reality to say illegal immigrants dont take jobs over natives.


For the unskilled illegal immigrants, they often deal drugs to get cash.


There is not a single positive that an illegal brings. Only negatives.


I dont loathe the person, i loathe the situation, social and economic damage they create.

Prove any of that.

If you employ an illegal to do any job then your a criminal (even mowing your lawn), you should be looking at the employers. They do not create economic danger because their isn't enough of them working to effect the economy. Britains billionaires with vast cash fortunes in banks probably do more damage than all of the illegal immigrants sending every single penny they earned out the country could ever do. Even if we imagine the ridiculous scenario of the entire british job market being flooded by illegal immigrants then it wouldn't be the illegals fault, it would be their criminal employers not employing natives.

You need to start looking at the causes of the problem.

[Deleted]

Prove any of that.

If you employ an illegal to do any job then your a criminal (even mowing your lawn), you should be looking at the employers. They do not create economic danger because their isn't enough of them working to effect the economy. Britains billionaires with vast cash fortunes in banks probably do more damage than all of the illegal immigrants sending every single penny they earned out the country could ever do. Even if we imagine the ridiculous scenario of the entire british job market being flooded by illegal immigrants then it wouldn't be the illegals fault, it would be their criminal employers not employing natives.

You need to start looking at the causes of the problem.

"Prove that people work cash in hand and hard up households aren't happy to pay tradesman with said cash".

You sir, are clueless in life.

[IIamaKing]

Landlords as private citizens shouldn't have to do the government's bidding.

So a landlord should be allowed to harbor any sort of criminal? Murderers, rapists, pedos, thieves? I mean why should they do the bidding of the government, they are private businesses after all.

[procne]

Grey area is quite common in low paid job positions which do not require any specific skills. It's getting bigger when unemployment grows and illegal immigrants have no other way of getting a job. Illegal immigrants are always a problem

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So a landlord should be allowed to harbor any sort of criminal? Murderers, rapists, pedos, thieves? I mean why should they do the bidding of the government, they are private businesses after all.

Wrong comparison. Landlord shouldn't be required to verify if the people he rents flats to aren't murderers, rapists, pedos, thieves, etc.
That's not his job.

[Hooked]

Grey area is quite common in low paid job positions which do not require any specific skills. It's getting bigger when unemployment grows and illegal immigrants have no other way of getting a job. Illegal immigrants are always a problem

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Wrong comparison. Landlord shouldn't be required to verify if the people he rents flats to aren't murderers, rapists, pedos, thieves, etc.
That's not his job.

A lot of places do background checks on potential tenants. It helps keep out the riff raff.

[Noradin]

A lot of places do background checks on potential tenants. It helps keep out the riff raff.

That is alright (as long as they do not break the law doing so), but that is not the same as requiring them to do so.
You do not require citizens to police the road in front of their homes either, do you?

This is a publicity stunt with very problematic side effects.

[Deleted]

That is alright (as long as they do not break the law doing so), but that is not the same as requiring them to do so.
You do not require citizens to police the road in front of their homes either, do you?

This is a publicity stunt with very problematic side effects.

decent landlords will only let to decent working people

[AeneasBK]

decent landlords will only let to decent working people

lol @ the edit.

"Decent landlords" seem to be in a minority, would you agree?

[Vatrilian]

I just find it interesting all of these migrants fought so hard to no longer be subjects of the "evil imperialist European" but now want to fight to become citizens of the crown again. Independence means independence!!! Europe means progress, human rights, law, and an increased standard of living not seen ever in the world.

[Xires]

No it won't. Anyone travelling thousands of miles, largely on foot, and spending their life savings on dilapidated deathtrap boats, willing to risk their lives on every stage of year-long journeys just for a chance at a better life isn't going to be deterred by eviction laws.. they are still going to come. And they'll just end up on the streets (many already do), only to be forced into crime or slavery (yes, that also happens).

However harsh and cold you try to make the UK look, their own homes are far worse. Yet somehow we feel the need to criticize and hate them merely for having hope for a better life.

yeah, they make their way to England and then demand that England change for them. MANY of them send their money back to their countries of Origin. Almost NONE of them adapt to living in the West and infact they make demands for England to change for them. Those of you blind enough to be against this obviously don't know about your rising problem or you don't care.

[Shadowmelded]

yeah, they make their way to England and then demand that England change for them. MANY of them send their money back to their countries of Origin. Almost NONE of them adapt to living in the West and infact they make demands for England to change for them. Those of you blind enough to be against this obviously don't know about your rising problem or you don't care.

How exactly do they "demand" that "England" (not the UK?) change for them?