What do you want to see for Warrior in Legion?

[Corpsefury]

Dual wielding daggers for fury artifact weapons.

[Deleted]

Gladiator spec
*not giving carpal tunnel to players.
*a 4th spec.
*uses dps gear, not tank gear, except the shield.
*having dps on par with arms and fury, and not a joke because Blizzard had to cater to morons saying "herp derp p0rt spaec shund do dps like armz nd furry".

[DesMephisto]

Why reduce variety? Are you implying that blizzard are unable to maintain 3 interesting specs for warriors?

I'm implying they're unable to maintain any kind of balance, and variety. Arms is shit on constantly, and fury is borderline torture, the only reason I even play fury is because I love DW + Plate and I hate DK's with a passion plus that and I've invested so much time into this char I could never quit it.

Arms in PVP is shit as well now too. Better to just kill it off and make fury suck less than try and maintain anything at this point.

[Valrok]

Fray Island as class order hall thing
Sweet artifact weapons
Heroic Strike

[Elim Garak]

Will you even see a warrior under the heap of Demon Hunters?

[Jetstream]

I've heard so many good things about Gladiator Stance, that I'd like it to be something baseline for Prot.

I'd love to level my warrior like that. I might actually get him to max level finally.

[Uoyredrum]

Arms: Complete redesign from the ground up. I wouldn't mind seeing whirlwind removed and just keeping thunderclap. Bring back overpower and slam (baseline), make the spec abilities actually interact with each other. Make sweeping strikes a toggle. Bring back deep wounds. Make thunderclap spread both bleeds. Rework mastery to something more interesting. Both specs masteries are just %more damage to (or when) X, which is boring. Bring back piercing howl too and make TC an attack speed slow again. Bring back blood frenzy.

Fury: Get rid of the stupid RNG. Bloodthirst/enrage is so poorly designed and they haven't touched it despite the complaints and how easily they could fix the issue. Bring back deep wounds. Bring back heroic strike as a rage dump, replace wild strike with slam. Make bloodsurge procs give a free slam off the cd. Replace Unquenchable Thirst. The only reason anyone uses it is with the glyph to cheese duels. It's terrible for dps. Also change the wild strike one.

Prot: I have no real complaints about prot but I also don't play it nearly as much as the other two.

All specs: Bring back charge stun, unlink damage cds in pvp (for all classes, they should share a short cd so they can't be macro'd together, makes too many problems). Reduce reflect cd to 15 secs baseline, make the glyph increase the cd to 35 seconds but reflect all spells for 3 secs. Make shockwave reduce its cd per target hit up to a certain amount of targets instead of only when 3+. Give a glyph of dragon roar that removes the knockback effect. Replace siegebreaker with something interesting, it's a stupid talent.

That's off the top of my head, I'm sure I'll think of more.

[Kazuchika]

Why reduce variety? Are you implying that blizzard are unable to maintain 3 interesting specs for warriors?

Oh you mean basically like now? You have an odd definition of "interesting".

[Toppy]

Will you even see a warrior under the heap of Demon Hunters?

It'll die down once the vain folk realize you spend most time in demon forms.

[tankbug]

Oh you mean basically like now? You have an odd definition of "interesting".

No, I mean like the potential. Removing Arms is like saying "This spec had nothing going for it" or "We are unable to balance arms and fury", or something like that. I don't share that very pessimistic view about the class design in WoW. The gladiator stance was a ballsy move, and I hope they're not leaving that behind either.

[Pua]

Honestly?

They need to scrub the decks and start again. The class is fucked.

Arms is tortuous and cumbersome to play, Fury is hopelessly broken, and Protection is currently suffering its dullest incarnation ever despite having a DPS stance.

Sadly, all the work will be going into hunters (the game's most popular class) and warlocks (Demonology... Again) because Chris Zierhut hasn't a clue how to prioritise the work his team does, what's actually needed for warriors, and the imagination to make it work.

Let's not forget that demon hunters are going to eat up the lion's share of the design time.

I wouldn't expect much in the way of changes. Things will be 90% the same, I'd expect, and none of the endemic problems will be addressed because there are more fun things for them to work on.

[Beelzebull]

Not quite sure why people keep saying to create a separate spec for gladiator...

I like gladiator as it is, with its ups and downs.

Only thing I would change is to simply bake it in to prot specialisation....

No prot warrior ever used battle stance. Just change battle stance to gladiator stance for all prot warriors.

Then they can create a new talent choice instead of it in the talent system.

[FobManX]

Fury:

-BT always grants RB. BT crits proc Enrage and grant two stacks of RB. RB stacks to 3.
-Get rid of Wild Strike. Bring Heroic Strike back. Replace Bloodsurge with a simliar proc that makes your next HS cost no rage and guaranteed crit.
-Execute available earlier. Most Exe type abilities are available at 30% if not earlier.

Not even gonna go into Arms. It needs a complete and total overhaul.

I actually think Prot/Glad is okay, although Glad is a bit spammy, but I don't play it enough to know what kind of changes I'd like.

[Toppy]

Not quite sure why people keep saying to create a separate spec for gladiator...

I like gladiator as it is, with its ups and downs.

Only thing I would change is to simply bake it in to prot specialisation....

No prot warrior ever used battle stance. Just change battle stance to gladiator stance for all prot warriors.

Then they can create a new talent choice instead of it in the talent system.

Because its the worst melee spec
Because in PvP glad is so gimp that prot is better in any fight
Because it has the worst utility of any warrior dps spec
Because ironically, it has the less defensive capability of any warrior dps spec for PvE
Because all of those problems could be easily fixed by it being its own spec and are a result of being shared with prot.

[Magnosh]

I would honestly like a full rework of the protection spec, feels outdated/old, too simplistic and with way too many buttons atm, I'm fully using 23+ Keybinds.

Would like to see another resource system besides Rage (Palas have Holy power, Monks chi and DKs Runes), something at the same time interesting and bringing some complexity. Shield Barrier should either be boosted a bit, some more self heals would be interesting or at least more damage reduction. Having better talent choices (Gladiator stance gives little to protection and its not fun at all).

But most important:
- Change Avatar animation to the Avatar animation from Heroes of the Storm.

[Thallidomaniac]

Because its the worst melee spec
Because in PvP glad is so gimp that prot is better in any fight
Because it has the worst utility of any warrior dps spec
Because ironically, it has the less defensive capability of any warrior dps spec for PvE
Because all of those problems could be easily fixed by it being its own spec and are a result of being shared with prot.

As for PvP, making the Shield Slam glyph usable again by Glad Warriors (either by changing the glyph back, or making it baseline with SS) would be a big difference. Maybe also give Disarm back for Prot/Glad Warriors too.

As for defense, doesn't Glad have quite good defensive capabilities compared to Arms and Fury? Arms and Fury have Die by the Sword, Shield Barrier, (which forces you into D-stance) and Rallying Cry (which is more of a raid CD instead of a personal one). Glad still has the Prot defenseive CDs, having access to Demo Shout, Shield Wall, Last Stand, Shield Barrier won't intefere with your damage output (doesn't shift you into D-stance), and you have the extra armor from having a shield.

[Toppy]

As for PvP, making the Shield Slam glyph usable again by Glad Warriors (either by changing the glyph back, or making it baseline with SS) would be a big difference. Maybe also give Disarm back for Prot/Glad Warriors too.

As for defense, doesn't Glad have quite good defensive capabilities compared to Arms and Fury? Arms and Fury have Die by the Sword, Shield Barrier, (which forces you into D-stance) and Rallying Cry (which is more of a raid CD instead of a personal one). Glad still has the Prot defenseive CDs, having access to Demo Shout, Shield Wall, Last Stand, Shield Barrier won't intefere with your damage output (doesn't shift you into D-stance), and you have the extra armor from having a shield.

Which is why I mentioned PvE defensive capability.

Yes but they also cannot switch to D stance which is one of the biggest mitigations warriors can get when needed. Likewise they sacrifice damage for shield barrier, which isnt that good in glad stance anyway.

In PvP yes, good defensive, but who cares prot stance is always better. In PvE? Not as good.

[DeiVias]

Redesign Arms.

Or just take it back to how it was when it was actually fun to play.

[Breccia]

Why reduce variety? Are you implying that blizzard are unable to maintain 3 interesting specs for warriors?

That's sarcasm, right? I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm.

[Hellravager]

If they remove arms i'd probably never play again because that'd be like saying they cant balance shit at all without getting rid of shit