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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    Strip away the salient details.

    The root of both beliefs is that Whites are superior.

    Either inherently or circumstantially, the belief is the same.

    Which is why both need to go away.

    If you don't want to accept the fact that people are playing a race game then you wont see this fact.
    3/10, poor attempted trolling.

    You're playing fast and loose with the definition of "white superiority". When most people use the term "[racial] superiority", it's taken as an inherent quality. The idea of inherent racial superiority has been debunked thousands of times (e.g. many papers have refuted R.J. Herrnstein's "The Bell Curve", which is why it's now dismissed as pseudoscience). You're redefining "[racial] superiority" as a sort of temporary socioeconomic advantage, when your context suggests you believe the conventional definition. Sorry. No one's falling for it.
    The plural of anecdote is not "data". It's "Bayesian inference".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo Baggins View Post
    Again, nothing specific has ever happened beyond a verbal confrontation... but the hatred in those more and more frequent confrontations, and racial comments made to ME in those confrontations are painting a picture that people don't want equality, they want superiority.

    Again... the youtube video... the retards that stormed Bernie Sanders campaign http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sa...tter-activists

    If given the opportunity to tell you how they really feel, people will tell you that they HATE white people. I think its equally ignorant... and I guess ya'll are right racism is racism... but it goes both ways. The minority groups aren't absolved of that guilt simply because they are a minority.
    So, let me get this straight. Nothing has happened other than a verbal confrontation. If this is with your boss or a coworker, than I suggest to call hr and classify it as harassment, because it is. However, given the vague nature of your post and your apparent sensitivity to criticism, I'm guessing troll or outright lying to make a point.

    You know what can show racism? Examples and proof. Let me give you some examples from my life. I have a white mother, and a black father, and grew up in the Bronx in the 80's and 90's. My father was, himself, a police officer. His aunt was gangraped by a group of police officers in the 40's to the point where she could not have children. Good thing too, because all 8 of her sisters died during childbirth(since they were black, they weren't allowed in the hospital or just weren't cared for, so they either hemorrhaged or died from infection.) so she took care of my father and his 7 cousins. My father, as a police officer, was beaten regularly by other officers(always 5 or more at a time) to the point where he was forced to retire at the age of 42 due to the injuries sustained "on the job". His family's lives were constantly threatened by fellow officers at this time. In my youth, I was beaten by a group of police five different times. Sometimes just with fists, mostly with clubs, often pistol whipped. I once walked through a white neighborhood since I missed my bus. One fine gentleman saw me, proceeded to aim a shotgun at me, forced me to lay on the ground while he slammed the blunt end of said shotgun against my skull. That happened for about 10 minutes until the police showed up so they could "take over".
    And I never fought back. If I did, I would have been gunned down and they would have planted drugs on me. They would say I resisted arrest and grabbed for a gun. They would say everything that's been shown on the news for the past 2 years. Most black people in this country know it.
    Now, I could go further into the racism I dealt with in school or what I dealt with getting the career that I have, but the point is I have actual examples of racism in which my life, well being or family have been threatened by ignorance. I don't know if you're going to read this or if you're even going to believe it if you actually do. But regardless, if you feel that you have been discriminated against, you better be damn sure to explain yourself, because no matter the color of your skin, that's a serious charge with serious repercussions for both yourself and whoever you claim has discriminated against you.

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    White people may not have been, the nicest of people in the past, or the ones that stuck out the most if you think of things like... slavery and so on. Not saying white people are evil people, just saying a group of people commited heinous crimes in the past and their skin color was White. And yea, every human no matter of skin color did something despicable in the past, just seems like the white people gets the most blame for it.

    That also goes to saying that, skin color doesn't matter, not to me at least. Don't care if your brown, black, yellow , white , orange or freaking green... I don't give a crap. I'm white my self and I don't really care about things like skin color, sure you can joke about it with friends and so on but...i'm not gonna take crap from noone for disliking me for being white, never ever am I doing to do that shit, someone throws dirt in my face, im gonna throw a rock back in theirs to draw the line...

    But I get you OP, just don't take shit from anyone, no matter the skin color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    Strip away the salient details.

    The root of both beliefs is that Whites are superior.

    Either inherently or circumstantially, the belief is the same.

    Which is why both need to go away.

    If you don't want to accept the fact that people are playing a race game then you wont see this fact.
    Let's strip away those little details we have left here and get to the undeniable truth; certain wavelengths of lights are simply superior to others in all regards. That wavelength, is of course white. That is why cake tastes delicious, because the white frosting makes it inherently better. White cars also cost less to insure than say, red, or black. This phenomenon also explains why mints taste better than skittles. The rainbow got it wrong, gentlemen and Zombergy knows why!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcanasm View Post
    "Reverse racism" is a term people use to mean discrimination against the majority; in the US, that means anti-white racism.
    White males are a minority in the US.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post
    Closing your eyes and pretending that there aren't inequalities in the system doesn't magically make them go away. Don't get me wrong, one can't blame everything on these same issues either. However, acknowledging that the sky is blue implies nothing about how the day will go.
    I'm not pretending I'm taking the idea a step further.

    If Whites are better off you have to ask why they're better off.

    Depending on who you ask you'll get one of two answers:

    a. Whites are better off because they're better
    b. Whites are better off because they have positioned themselves to be better

    Either way the conclusion of the belief is that Whites are better off.

    The teaching that White privilege is a set of variables that can be tweaked is in itself the same as acknowledging that Whites tweaked those variables for themselves.

    Equality under that system is by definition a lie.

    And why not?

    Humans aren't really equal.

    The entire human race is engaged in a battle to see who can do the best.

    And that's the way it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    The entire human race is engaged in a battle to see who can do the best.
    Which isn't remotely true, in actual fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    Equality under that system is by definition a lie.
    Equality is the goal. Recognizing inequity in no way impedes that goal. There is no way to phrase that or creatively define words to make anything other than that the case unless you really want it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodlyBob View Post
    Let's strip away those little details we have left here and get to the undeniable truth; certain wavelengths of lights are simply superior to others in all regards. That wavelength, is of course white. That is why cake tastes delicious, because the white frosting makes it inherently better. White cars also cost less to insure than say, red, or black. This phenomenon also explains why mints taste better than skittles. The rainbow got it wrong, gentlemen and Zombergy knows why!
    I actually LoL'ed at this.

    Mint skittles haha.

    Well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    White males are a minority in the US.
    Cool story, bro. Let me know when the economic power of white males becomes a minority.
    The plural of anecdote is not "data". It's "Bayesian inference".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcanasm View Post
    Cool story, bro. Let me know when the economic power of white males becomes a minority.
    I wasn't aware 'economic power' made you a demographic majority.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Reverse racism, or just racism against whites, is very real. I've mentioned in the past that I'm a Security Manager at a casino. I work and interact with people across the entire spectrum. Whenever I have a "negative" interaction with a patron who is not white the first thing out of their mouth 75% of the time is in regards to my skin color. This is across blacks, Asians, Indians, Hispanics etc.

    Last weekend I spoke with an African American female who was highly intoxicated. You're not allowed to be intoxicated inside a casino where I live because the State doesn't want the casino can't take advantage of you while you're drunk. No one sees it that way, but hey, it's for their protection. Anyways, as I'm en route to her location I'm notified that she is in fact hiding a fifth in her purse that's she's been drinking. Bringing in your own alcohol into a liquor serving establishment is illegal in my state. So I approach her and state "Ma'am I'm (my name) in security can I speak with you a moment?" I was about to explain the law and that I'm going to have to ask her to leave but she interrupts me stating "What's your bald-headed cracker ass want?" (I hate hair and shave my head.) Hmm... in wine truth... I guess.

    I'm used to being cursed out. I made it 90 something work days in a row once being cursed at. I have a very think skin and the vitriol and racism thrown my way doesn't affect me. I've been called every derogatory name for a white person one can think of. And while I can't claim it happens every day; it is every week. When I write my reports I don't even bother remarking on their racism as no one cares.

    Finally, for those who are interested, the AA female ended up getting arrested for persistent disorderly conduct, criminal trespass, public intoxication, open container in a liquor serving establishment and resisting arrest. She also had outstanding warrants for forgery. She's facing 3-5 years in jail when all she had to do was gather her sober friends to drive her home and that would have been the end of it. Yay... another court date my cracker ass won't get paid for. (Salaried for that very reason.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsea2012 View Post
    Asian Americans suffered ALOT MORE racism than blacks in this country
    History isn't your strong suit, I see.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovm33 View Post
    Reverse racism, or just racism against whites, is very real. I've mentioned in the past that I'm a Security Manager at a casino. I work and interact with people across the entire spectrum. Whenever I have a "negative" interaction with a patron who is not white the first thing out of their mouth 75% of the time is in regards to my skin color. This is across blacks, Asians, Indians, Hispanics etc.

    Last weekend I spoke with an African American female who was highly intoxicated. You're not allowed to be intoxicated inside a casino where I live because the State doesn't want the casino can't take advantage of you while you're drunk. No one sees it that way, but hey, it's for their protection. Anyways, as I'm en route to her location I'm notified that she is in fact hiding a fifth in her purse that's she's been drinking. Bringing in your own alcohol into a liquor serving establishment is illegal in my state. So I approach her and state "Ma'am I'm (my name) in security can I speak with you a moment?" I was about to explain the law and that I'm going to have to ask her to leave but she interrupts me stating "What's your bald-headed cracker ass want?" (I hate hair and shave my head.) Hmm... in wine truth... I guess.

    I'm used to being cursed out. I made it 90 something work days in a row once being cursed at. I have a very think skin and the vitriol and racism thrown my way doesn't affect me. I've been called every derogatory name for a white person one can think of. And while I can't claim it happens every day; it is every week. When I write my reports I don't even bother remarking on their racism as no one cares.

    Finally, for those who are interested, the AA female ended up getting arrested for persistent disorderly conduct, criminal trespass, public intoxication, open container in a liquor serving establishment and resisting arrest. She also had outstanding warrants for forgery. She's facing 3-5 years in jail when all she had to do was gather her sober friends to drive her home and that would have been the end of it. Yay... another court date my cracker ass won't get paid for. (Salaried for that very reason.)
    I am super sorry someone was mean to you, I know your feelings were hurt. On the other hand you weren't denied a loan, or not called back for a job with identical qualifications, or been told that an apartment/house wasn't available when it was, or sentenced for a longer period for identical crimes, or shot while unarmed and have everyone assume it was deserved and on and on and on

    So while aggressive behaviour is definitely a cause for concern, when people talk about racism it is only a part of it. So please make an attempt to understand why most people wont react favourably when white people act as if racism against white people - consisting primarily of aggressive social interactions between individuals, and racism against other races - consisting of aggressive social interactions AND a system of power based discrimination and disadvantage are the same.

    Stubbed toes hurt, and so does cancer, telling someone with cancer about your stubbed toe isn't likely to net you any sympathy, especially when you proclaim that since you're both injured it's all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsea2012 View Post
    Blacks and Hispanics always tout about racism instead of looking at their culture. Asian Americans suffered ALOT MORE racism than blacks in this country, it's a FACT. but their culture values education instead of wedlock and gangster and look at them now, they are more successful than whites. So no, it is not the white man that are keeping you down, take some responsibilities for your own damn action instead of trying to rob and kill Chinese delivery man with your neanderthal culture.
    The black people in U.S. are not immigrants. If their culture is different from other Americans, we as Americans are culpable in separating the two cultures. If you apply your view of two different cultures for white and black Americans, you are showing how racism is systematic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsea2012 View Post
    Blacks and Hispanics always tout about racism instead of looking at their culture. Asian Americans suffered ALOT MORE racism than blacks in this country, it's a FACT. but their culture values education instead of wedlock and gangster and look at them now, they are more successful than whites. So no, it is not the white man that are keeping you down, take some responsibilities for your own damn action instead of trying to rob and kill Chinese delivery man with your neanderthal culture.
    What? I'm dumbfounded that anyone could be this ignorant of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post
    What? I'm dumbfounded that anyone could be this ignorant of history.
    He is talking about how black culture is different from white, when it was legal to deny people housing based on race less than 50 years ago. In 50 years we went from complaining black people are living next to us, to complaining that black people have their own culture. Completely ignoring that white and black culture being separate was a systematic issue even in legislation within the last 50 years. The issue isn't that the two cultures are separate, but that them being separate is American culture.

    Then look up at the OP, who even renames racism as 'reverse racism' based on race and the issue should be blatantly obvious...
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    Sorry but white people are not oppressed just yet. However, In a few decades in the US there will be a majority minority which will give us massive snowflake points from which we will get to constantly complain about being oppressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakerOfWills View Post
    I am super sorry someone was mean to you, I know your feelings were hurt. On the other hand you weren't denied a loan, or not called back for a job with identical qualifications, or been told that an apartment/house wasn't available when it was, or sentenced for a longer period for identical crimes, or shot while unarmed and have everyone assume it was deserved and on and on and on

    So while aggressive behaviour is definitely a cause for concern, when people talk about racism it is only a part of it. So please make an attempt to understand why most people wont react favourably when white people act as if racism against white people - consisting primarily of aggressive social interactions between individuals, and racism against other races - consisting of aggressive social interactions AND a system of power based discrimination and disadvantage are the same.

    Stubbed toes hurt, and so does cancer, telling someone with cancer about your stubbed toe isn't likely to net you any sympathy, especially when you proclaim that since you're both injured it's all the same.
    So racism against whites is cool... because reasons. Gotcha, so you're racist. Glad we got that out of the way. I'm going to go ahead and disregard everything else you say.
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