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    Quote Originally Posted by Stop Pretending View Post
    So if white people claimed they didn't feel safe around black people, and wanted their own coach, would you be OK with that?
    Depends. Was there a rise in black-on-white crime?



    I'm not entirely against this if the crimes keep getting worse.

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    What if the assaulter is a woman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    What if the assaulter is a woman?
    It wouldn't stop female-on-male, female-on-female, male-on-male, offences that are committed whilst the woman is travelling with a man, nor anything that happens in a station or on other railway property, all of which are within the 1400 sexual offence cases per year.

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    Oh wonderful, let's fuck up the packed train system here more then it already is.

    There's been days where I've not gotten a seat along with dozens of other people packed into carriages.

    I wonder if old Jeremy has ever actually used a standard coach and experienced what it's like having to stand in one for hours on end back to back with men and women.

    Clueless fat cat tosser

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    Shall we have race only carriages to because of racism. What about gay only for protection to homosexuals? Maybe we need to separate theists and atheists on trains too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Oh wonderful, let's fuck up the packed train system here more then it already is.

    There's been days where I've not gotten a seat along with dozens of other people packed into carriages.

    I wonder if old Jeremy has ever actually used a standard coach and experienced what it's like having to stand in one for hours on end back to back with men and women.

    Clueless fat cat tosser

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    Shall we have race only carriages to because of racism. What about gay only for protection to homosexuals? Maybe we need to separate theists and atheists on trains too.
    Of all the things to accuse Jeremy Corbyn of being, I think 'fat cat' is possibly the least accurate you could come up with.

    Perhaps it's best not to call him clueless.

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    Never understood the need men has to grope women do they have no restraint? Im a man myself but i never think about groping women. And no im not gay.
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    In other countries like Canada the population has chosen to believe in hope, peace and tolerance. This we can see from the election of the Honourable Justin Trudeau who stood against the politics of hate and divisiveness.

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    It strikes me as a bit of a "swivel eyed" policy, the sort of stuff that would be discussed by the Peoples Liberation Army of East Sussex in it's weekly meet up, alongside overthrowing the government by chaining yourself to your local MPs allotment shed. Student Union fare, which makes sense really since that's his audience.

    Good to see the 70's are back in full swing. #TeamCorbyn.

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    It wont do a damn thing. Men will just dress up like women, claim they are transgender and get on the womens train. How about he do the proper thing and hire security guards or police to ride on the trains. Of course this guy would never win anyway because he is so far to the left hes almost a communist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    It wont do a damn thing.
    True.

    Men will just dress up like women, claim they are transgender and get on the womens train.
    That's crazy talk.

    How about he do the proper thing and hire security guards or police to ride on the trains.
    The cost vs benefit ratio probably doesn't warrant it, but it is a possible solution.

    Of course this guy would never win anyway because he is so far to the left hes almost a communist
    Whilst he is too far left for the UK, he isn't almost a communist at all.


    50% of your post was good, 50% was insane rambling. You're getting there.
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    Why is this necessary? Would it not be possible to add more security to the trains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Of course this guy would never win anyway because he is so far to the left hes almost a communist
    It's looking very likely that Corbyn is going to win the Labour leadership nomination and he's definitely not a communist. He wants to follow a very similar model to the Scandinavian countries instead of the central European nations, ie. more socialism, more nationalisation in certain sectors, a more regulated & taxed free market.

    A combination of:
    His 3 opponents are all standing on pretty much the same policy platform and thus split the votes for it between themselves.
    His opponents are all very "Labour Establishment" - ie. their main policy is "we want to get power again"
    He's a very long serving member whereas the other 3 are all fairly recent members & were part of the crashed ship that was Ed Milliband 2015
    His policies appeal to core Labour voters very strongly
    Corbyn could realistically win in Scotland vs the SNP, the other 3 stand no chance of regaining much ground there
    Corbyn's campaign has successfully brought in many Trade Unionists, Green and SNP voters to the Labour membership
    The PPP aren't very popular right now, particularly within Labour and Corbyn is very unpopular with the PPP
    The EU is unpopular in the UK right now, all of the 3 others in the party are "pro-Europe under any circumstance", Corbyn is sceptical of the benefits the EU brings.

    That said Jeremy Corbyn and his policies don't really go down very well nationally, particularly in England and NI.

    He's like the Labour version of Tump - goes down amazingly well with the core party voters but stands no chance in a national election.
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    Labour should split tbh, New Labour can team up with the Lib Dems and they can play at Tory lite together(can name the party "Tories you can vote for and still think your a nice person") whilst Corbyn with the old guards and the nutters can give us the actual Labour party back. Then we might actually have a Parliament that's worth a damn.

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    Labour should split tbh, New Labour can team up with the Lib Dems and they can play at Tory lite together whilst Corbyn with the old guards and the nutters can give us the actual Labour party back. Then we might actually have a Parliament that's worth a damn.
    In which case Conservative will be the ruling party for the next 50 years.

    FPTP only works if we have 2 major parties who both have a chance of winning a majority, splitting Labour would mean they could never win a majority again and there's no other party which could take their place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikesglory View Post
    In which case Conservative will be the ruling party for the next 50 years.

    FPTP only works if we have 2 major parties who both have a chance of winning a majority, splitting Labour would mean they could never win a majority again and there's no other party which could take their place.
    How is that different than the current status quo? The Tories are always in power, it's been that way since Thatcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    How is that different than the current status quo? The Tories are always in power, it's been that way since Thatcher.
    All hail the one party state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    How is that different than the current status quo? The Tories are always in power, it's been that way since Thatcher.
    That's nonsense, Labour just weren't unelectable left wing nutters under Blair, that doesn't make them Tories.

    Even as someone who is traditionally a Tory voter, I don't want the Labour Party to have someone in charge who will marginalise their party, otherwise we end up with John Major-era Conservatives/Brown-era Labour, where they do what they want without considering the electorate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    How is that different than the current status quo? The Tories are always in power, it's been that way since Thatcher.
    If you lose the opportunity for the opposition to gain power you won't get Cameron Conservatism, you'll get it swinging into core conservative territory instead of having to keep policies nationally popular.

    A party in the UK is theoretically able to reach a majority (and therefore 100% of the power) on only 30% of the popular votes. If the opposition is split it becomes much easier for the leading party to pander purely to their core base and still maintain power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    That's nonsense, Labour just weren't unelectable left wing nutters under Blair, that doesn't make them Tories.

    Even as someone who is traditionally a Tory voter, I don't want the Labour Party to have someone in charge who will marginalise their party, otherwise we end up with John Major-era Conservatives/Brown-era Labour, where they do what they want without considering the electorate.
    Explain to me how Blair wasn't Thatcherite again? I missed that one. If it walks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck and looks like a Duck, it's a Duck. I really cba pretending otherwise at this point.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mikesglory View Post
    If you lose the opportunity for the opposition to gain power you won't get Cameron Conservatism, you'll get it swinging into core conservative territory instead of having to keep policies nationally popular.

    A party in the UK is theoretically able to reach a majority (and therefore 100% of the power) on only 30% of the popular votes. If the opposition is split it becomes much easier for the leading party to pander purely to their core base and still maintain power.

    Also why would a party made of Lib Dems (people know they actually did work in Government now the Conservatives have been able to default to the Nasty Party) and New Labour (most populist government in our history IMO) be unelectable? It's exactly what people want, to vote Tory and not be branded a Tory.
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    Sounds sexist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    Explain to me how Blair wasn't Thatcherite again? I missed that one. If it walks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck and looks like a Duck, it's a Duck. I really cba pretending otherwise at this point.





    Also why would a party made of Lib Dems (people know they actually did work in Government now the Conservatives have been able to default to the Nasty Party) and New Labour (most populist government in our history IMO) be unelectable? It's exactly what people want, to vote Tory and not be branded a Tory.
    Well considering the Lib Dems are likely to be rebranding as Gladstonian Libertarians with a green and social twist for 2020, their next policy platform is going to be almost incompatible with Labour under any leader.

    Then again the original 2010 Liberal manifesto was incompatible with the Conservative platform so they just tossed it out.
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