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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    People need to stop being so paranoid and thinking that the government actually cares about you.
    No, the government doesn't care about you, Microsoft cares about you. Your personal information is worth a lot and you're giving it away for some pretty pictures and a weather app. You are becoming virtual slaves to a company that doesn't have your best intentions in mind.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Excellion View Post
    I don't see a problem with this...
    Look up Leelah Alcorn. That's the kind of shit Windows 10 is allowing to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repefe View Post
    Do you read your childs diary every week as well to keep up to date ?
    What the...

    Do they pay monthly for their child's diary to be used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    Look up Leelah Alcorn. That's the kind of shit Windows 10 is allowing to happen.
    What the hell does Win10 have to do with it? Nothing. lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rixis View Post
    So which complaints would be louder, those saying that companies aren't doing enough to protect their kids when they're online, or this? Assuming this was a base feature and not related to any sort o f"parental protections" that the users opted into without reading.
    Well, if you are Fox News, you can complain about both sides. Just complain about one side one week, then other side the following week. I guarantee their audience will never figure it out (if you are interested, Fox News has been documented doing just such things in the past).

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbound View Post
    Well, if you are Fox News, you can complain about both sides. Just complain about one side one week, then other side the following week. I guarantee their audience will never figure it out (if you are interested, Fox News has been documented doing just such things in the past).
    then again i don't think their audience can even remember what they did last week. *cue laugh track*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    Look up Leelah Alcorn. That's the kind of shit Windows 10 is allowing to happen.
    There is a solution to situations like that... Dont want your parents to find out you are doing something? Dont make it possible for them to find out. Which may be inconvenient for you at the time, but if you really dont want them to find out it saves you the trouble in the future.

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    not seeing how this feature affects me much since i don't have children and my computer is my own.
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    That would be dreadful! Come on, seriously, why would you be so ignorant as to support this idea? Think back to your days as a kid and realise just how awful, and demeaning that this could possibly have been for you (I'm only nineteen, so, it's with a little more ease for me to recall). Honestly, don't get me wrong, parents are allowed to care, a hundred percent, but spying on everything they do is not being caring, but domineering.

    Seriously, don't snoop into their lives, unless if it's absolutely necessary. Those poor kids don't spy on your whole lives, now do they? Come, now, I'm just about sure that almost every parent has a dirty secret of their own to hide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonder View Post
    That would be dreadful! Come on, seriously, why would you be so ignorant as to support this idea? Think back to your days as a kid and realise just how awful, and demeaning that this could possibly have been for you (I'm only nineteen, so, it's with a little more ease for me to recall). Honestly, don't get me wrong, parents are allowed to care, a hundred percent, but spying on everything they do is not being caring, but domineering.

    Seriously, don't snoop into their lives, unless if it's absolutely necessary. Those poor kids don't spy on your whole lives, now do they? Come, now, I'm just about sure that almost every parent has a dirty secret of their own to hide.
    Knowing what your children are doing at all times and not inserting yourselves into the middle of it isn't even remotely domineering... it becomes such when you assert your will over them in an arrogant way. You say dont snoop unless its necessary? How is that determined? Here's the deal as a child you dont make the rules, ever. Today's children seem to forget that.

    The short answer Gonder, if you dont want your parents to know something you are doing. Dont do it in their home, dont do it on their computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StayTuned View Post
    I'm not. There's no 100% security your child won't do something bad, so teach him not to do bad things and hope for the best. Monitoring his every step is absurd, not my suggestion that even children deserve some sort of privacy.
    Monitoring every step now? How about monitoring then when they partake in activity that could harm them. In an activity that is shared by those who want to take advantage of them. There is no 100% security, so the fact that you can have the security while you can, should make you understand.

    Might as well stop all those 15/16 years old from going to the park without supervision, because they might do something bad.
    Depends on the park... The Internet just happens to be a dangerous park... You let your kids play in parks that are safe, the Internet is not that park.

    This is some new level shit paranoia.
    Not paranoia... If you follow your own rational that there is no 100% safety, that you cannot follow them at every step and recognize that there are parks that are worse than others... You would agree that to at least take precautions where you can. You would be the same level shit paranoid as I am... Would you allow your kids to go to a park where you know someone is there to take advantage of them? Don't jump on extremes either, just think of the little brother always screws wow accounts... Phishing scams are pretty common and kids are susceptible, regardless how you teach them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StayTuned View Post
    That's totally just your opinion.

    Plus, it ain't just 13-16 years old who are monitored. It's 1-18 years old. If you have freak parents, they might even let the system on as long as you are living with them.

    Your parents are now officially the CIA
    you want to act as grown up them buy your own computer and your owen windows - all problems solved - and if you are still a child and canyt afford one then you have no right to sat anyrhing about what your parents decisions are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonder View Post
    That would be dreadful! Come on, seriously, why would you be so ignorant as to support this idea? Think back to your days as a kid and realise just how awful, and demeaning that this could possibly have been for you (I'm only nineteen, so, it's with a little more ease for me to recall). Honestly, don't get me wrong, parents are allowed to care, a hundred percent, but spying on everything they do is not being caring, but domineering.
    if you are 19 and find actions of your parents demeaning then show them you have balls find a job and move out like a grwon up shoudl do instead complaining,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonder View Post
    Seriously, don't snoop into their lives, unless if it's absolutely necessary. Those poor kids don't spy on your whole lives, now do they? Come, now, I'm just about sure that almost every parent has a dirty secret of their own to hide.
    Every parent that spies thinks it's necessary. The kid spying on parents lives? They do have many dirty secrets. It's called experience, which is why they know you want to do it too...
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    Good. Parents need a way to find what their kids are doing online, and people under 18 have no right to privacy from their parents. If they dont want to be embarrassed or get in trouble, then they shouldnt be visiting porn or other embarrassing things

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    Very interesting. So, the child is prone to become doomed, because their parents did not counter every little thing in their lives that they did not agree with? Come now, I've seen plenty of parents who are over caring, and it's not something to be respected. It looks embarrassing on both the child, and the parent themselves. Let them have their fun, let them do what they want to do, as long as it doesn't lead to them being a public menace.

    I was raised this way, and not once have I been a trouble to society. Am I a failure? I don't necessarily see myself as being one. Raise your children your own way, though I would prefer my own to feel both comfortable, and free, in this world of depression and anxiety that we live within. In the end, happiness is what matters most.

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    This isn't new. Windows 8.1 does the same thing. I get a report every Sunday of what my kids did on my computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    ...The bold goes for anything you didn't code yourself. Can it connect to the internet? Then data can be pulled from it. Does it keep logs? Then it can record data. Period.
    Well, there's a difference between an operating system and software you install on that operating system. If your OS is a spyware, then you can't trust ANY software launched on that OS. And I, for one, use open-source software that I compile myself when it's about privacy (password managers, file encryption, end-to-end encryption for emails/IMs, etc), I'm in a minority, I acknowledge that.

    Microsoft abuse the fact that vast majority of personal computers are using their OS. Hell, even when you buy a PC, it comes with a preinstalled copy of Windows.

    For gamers it's been especially true, given that a lot of games use DirectX and its realization is not in public, thus DX works only on Windows. At least I can say thanks to Valve that are working on a DirectX->OpenGL translator and to all the people that are working on the Vulkan thingie. Thanks guys, you're awesome.


    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    People need to stop being so paranoid and thinking that the government actually cares about you. They have a hard enough time trying to track real criminals
    I recommend you to search for "nsa spying on ex girlfriends" on Google, here's a quote from one of the articles:
    Quote Originally Posted by Reuters
    In one instance in 2005, a military member of the NSA queried six email addresses of a former American girlfriend - on the first day he obtained access to the data collection system. He later testified that "he wanted to practice on the system" and gained no information as a result of his queries.
    Plus what Haxartus said:
    Quote Originally Posted by haxartus View Post
    Microsoft cares about you. Your personal information is worth a lot and you're giving it away for some pretty pictures and a weather app. You are becoming virtual slaves to a company that doesn't have your best intentions in mind.

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