First a Bakery, then a Clerk, Now a Judge!

[Doctor Amadeus]

More proof of what tolerance of stupidity and hatred of gay people will get you. Personally I blame all the fence sitters and people who talk a lot of lip service about giving a shit about gay rights, and do fuck all or try to compromise with people of this like mind.

Oregon judge refuses to perform same-sex marriages

SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Marion County Judge Vance Day is being investigated by a judicial fitness commission in part over his refusal to perform same-sex marriages on religious grounds, a spokesman for the judge said.

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When a federal court ruling in May 2014 made same-sex marriage legal in Oregon, Day instructed his staff to refer same-sex couples looking to marry to other judges, spokesman Patrick Korten said Friday.

Last fall, he decided to stop performing weddings altogether, aside from one in March that had long been scheduled, Korten said.

"He made a decision nearly a year ago to stop doing weddings altogether, and the principal factor that he weighed was the pressure that one would face to perform a same-sex wedding, which he had a conflict with his religious beliefs," Korten said.

In an email, Day declined to comment and referred questions to Korten.

The issue of same-sex weddings is "the weightiest" of several allegations against Day that are being investigated by the Commission on Judicial Fitness and Disability, Korten said.

He declined to detail any of the allegations, saying he didn't want to defy the commission, which considers complaints confidential until it is ready to make them public.

http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-judge-r...031226608.html

[Orlong]

You cant expect people to just go along with something they disagree with just because 5 liberal activists judges demand you do so. Its called civil disobedience. I cant wait till President Donald Trump replaces them all with real judges who believe in tradition and strict interpretation of the constitution when the old farts die off or retire. BTW He is now beating both Hillary and Sanders straight up in the new CNN poll

[I Push Buttons]

I don't see a problem here... He doesn't want to officiate weddings that violates his religious views and referred them to judges who would officiate their weddings?

[Doctor Amadeus]

You cant expect people to just go along with something they disagree with just because 5 liberal activists judges demand you do so. Its called civil disobedience. I cant wait till President Donald Trump replaces them all with real judges who believe in tradition and strict interpretation of the constitution when the old farts die off or retire. BTW He is now beating both Hillary and Sanders straight up in the new CNN poll

Yeah actually I can, it's called following the law, or otherwise not railroading someone else and abusing your power as a judge and to serves the people, not denying a right to someone because they are gay.

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I don't see a problem here... He doesn't want to officiate weddings that violates his religious views and referred them to judges who would officiate their weddings?

The problem is he isn't serving in the capacity of a that of a someone who should be allowing his personal beliefs to dictate his duty, he isn't a priest, he is a judge.

[Garnier Fructis]

Someone on youtube had this to say on the idea that what they're doing is civil disobedience, and I think it's a really good characterization:

These people are not Rosa Parks. These people are the ones complaining that they can no longer force Rosa Parks to go to the back of the bus.

[Kujako]

Someone on youtube had this to say on the idea that what they're doing is civil disobedience, and I think it's a really good characterization:

These people are not Rosa Parks. These people are the ones complaining that they can no longer force Rosa Parks to go to the back of the bus.

Or more apt, they're standing in the school house doors to prevent racial integration.

[Kasierith]

If someone refuses to perform the basic aspects of his position for whatever reason, he should be investigated and possibly removed from the position for not being able to do it.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Someone on youtube had this to say on the idea that what they're doing is civil disobedience, and I think it's a really good characterization:

These people are not Rosa Parks. These people are the ones complaining that they can no longer force Rosa Parks to go to the back of the bus.

Yeah, I am not one for typically revering anything on YouTube I would have to agree with that sentiment. However this to me is about hate.

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If someone refuses to perform the basic aspects of his position for whatever reason, he should be investigated and possibly removed from the position for not being able to do it.

Yeah, well I think this guys going to try to hide behind some stunt like the clerk did, where they both refused to marry anybody gay or straight up and until a certain point.

[Dextroden]

Has this judge performed a marriage involving divorced partys before? If so, that religious grounds thing is a bunch of shit.

[Darththeo]

He is a judge which is a government position ... he can't in the line of his work refuse to marry gay couples. He can step down.

[Deleted]

Hes a true american hero, defender of true american values.

[Osmeric]

Elected officials being required to obey the law? The nerve of that judicial system!

[Zantos]

You cant expect people to just go along with something they disagree with just because 5 liberal activists judges demand you do so. Its called civil disobedience. I cant wait till President Donald Trump replaces them all with real judges who believe in tradition and strict interpretation of the constitution when the old farts die off or retire. BTW He is now beating both Hillary and Sanders straight up in the new CNN poll

You can expect them to do it. Its their Job.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Has this judge performed a marriage involving divorced partys before? If so, that religious grounds thing is a bunch of shit.

Yeah which is why I don't buy that excuse even in moral traditions and only moral traditions it's not an absolute.

[lockedout]

The problem is he isn't serving in the capacity of a that of a someone who should be allowing his personal beliefs to dictate his duty, he isn't a priest, he is a judge.

He refused to do all weddings not just gay ones. OP is misleading.

"He made a decision nearly a year ago to stop doing weddings altogether, and the principal factor that he weighed was the pressure that one would face to perform a same-sex wedding, which he had a conflict with his religious beliefs," Korten said.

[Darsithis]

You cant expect people to just go along with something they disagree with just because 5 liberal activists judges demand you do so. Its called civil disobedience. I cant wait till President Donald Trump replaces them all with real judges who believe in tradition and strict interpretation of the constitution when the old farts die off or retire. BTW He is now beating both Hillary and Sanders straight up in the new CNN poll

What is this "traditional" interpretation of the Constitution? I don't remember anything about Christianity in it.

[Spalding]

Good on him for standing up for what he believes in. Id do the same thing

[Doctor Amadeus]

Hes a true american hero, defender of true american values.

No he is the definition of an activist judge, ignoring not only the constitution but the law, as I said this is hatred, this is something done because someone can do something and as long as they have the power to abuse their authority they will.

[Baelic]

We now have clear-cut cases as to why religious freedom cannot be allowed in the operations of the State.

The separation of church and state was done for a reason.

[Kasierith]

He refused to do all weddings not just gay ones. OP is misleading.

"He made a decision nearly a year ago to stop doing weddings altogether, and the principal factor that he weighed was the pressure that one would face to perform a same-sex wedding, which he had a conflict with his religious beliefs," Korten said.

On what legal grounds did he base his decision to discontinue a service inherent with his public station?

Next you'll be telling me that we should let people with strong phobias of fire continue to be fire fighters. If he refuses to do his job, he should be investigated and his ability to continue in his position evaluated.

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What is this "traditional" interpretation of the Constitution? I don't remember anything about Christianity in it.

It's simple: what interpretation will get Trump the most fringe extremists?