Poll: will the u.s. ever have a socialist president or canidate?

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    do you think the u.s. will ever have a socialist party be a serious contender?

    yes there is currently a few running but honestly they rarely get more than 3% of the vote. do you think the u.s. will ever be able to elect or get behind a socialist canidate in any significant amount? i personally don't think so because the country leans too far to the right going on to be able to even consider a socialist or left leaning canidate. even our "left" party is still on the right. what do you think?
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    Once the Baby Boomers and Gen X dies off, maybe.
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    I certainly hope not. Socialists everywhere have a strong urge to turn everything they touch into shit. All clad in the deceitful robes of "good intentions". And no, taking care of the poor is not a socialist idea; it's just their favorite excuse.

    We're having an economical crisis here in Finland because over the years socialists have bloated the welfare system and the public sector ridiculously - and are refusing to cut or downsize anything even temporarily, even when it's apparent that the economy can't handle it any more. They would rather take more and more debt until everything comes crashing down.

    And their immigration ideas are also more than mildly twisted; they are most fond of immigrants who don't work or assimilate, but instead cause lots of trouble and expenses that wouldn't exist without them. (Honest, well-integrating and working immigrants aren't acceptable; how would socialists get to show off how "tolerant" they are if there isn't anything completely retarded to tolerate?) In short, socialists have degenerated from a workman's rights party into any lazy but demanding dipshit's and criminal's biggest supporter.

    If anything is ridiculously costly, dangerous and harmful to the society, economy, internal peace and the general morale, you can be certain that socialists are fully supporting it.
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    I very highly doubt it. Although if someone took many of the core principles of socialism and called it something else, maybe. Socialist is like a curse word here, politically speaking.

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    and conservatives have a tendency to say "screw the middle class and the poor the rich get everything bwhahahahah." or be very self serving in their policies and ideals. they say they support family values but that's really just a bunch of bullshit unless it's a social issue than they are all about the morals.
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    I don't think this will happen in our lifetime, but as time progresses it might become more likely.

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    Hopefully never.
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    Oh right, because the military is stealing most of our taxes, when will we spend money on something social for once!?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Furitrix View Post
    That blue part would be a lot smaller if you actually had decent (socialist) laws that made sure working people got paid properly.
    The irony is lost them. But yes, you're right.

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    wont happen as long as there are many examples of socialism failing around the world
    America knows what has made us one of the most prosperous nations ever and that is good old American free market capitalism
    where even our poor lives better then the middle class in many other nations
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    looks like all the usual suspects are dogpiling the thread because they heard the scary word socialism and are frothing with rage. it was a simple yes or no question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    looks like all the usual suspects are dogpiling the thread because they heard the scary word socialism and are frothing with rage. it was a simple yes or no question.
    We have a mixed economy, it's not that scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furitrix View Post
    For the sake of avoiding the suffering of billions of people in the future: I hope so, some day.
    If we take a look at the current and previous socialist governments and their actions, it doesn't bode well to the prediction of how a Socialist America would look like.

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    Where is the 'no, and don't ask again" option?

    Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Once the Baby Boomers and Gen X dies off, maybe.
    Not even the Gen X, but the Baby Boomers are so ingrained that "Socialism is bad!" that we're at a point in society where the rich own 90% of everything and the poor aren't even scraping by anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Oh right, because the military is stealing most of our taxes, when will we spend money on something social for once!?

    A few socialist changes, and we can severely cut both The yellow-orange and blue slices in half.

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    Probably, forever is a long time. I don't think we'd have a socialist party in name for quite awhile though.

    We are going to need to revisit some stronger socialist mechanisms to ensure our increasingly dense urban areas function better than they do now; it's my hope that more rural areas would be able to operate with less public intervention though as it's much less needed there. A strong socialist urban and industrial code, supported by a fairly libertarian rural code would, I think, function very cleanly.

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    I think it's entirely possible. I can see socialism getting a strong following when this country falls flat on it's face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBpapa View Post
    I think it's entirely possible. I can see socialism getting a strong following when this country falls flat on it's face.
    We just went through our once-per-70- years financial crisis and Occupy Wall Street lasted all of a month.

    Cya in 2078.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    looks like all the usual suspects are dogpiling the thread because they heard the scary word socialism and are frothing with rage. it was a simple yes or no question.
    If it is a simple yes or no question then why did you put your two cents into it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetruth1400 View Post
    Not even the Gen X, but the Baby Boomers are so ingrained that "Socialism is bad!" that we're at a point in society where the rich own 90% of everything and the poor aren't even scraping by anymore.



    A few socialist changes, and we can severely cut both The yellow-orange and blue slices in half.
    We actually need to expand the green part by about $120 trillion. Socialists won't do that.

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