"It is a little late, after you are both undressed, to say: "I don’t want this.""

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If you aren't ready then why start having sex? That's the argument being made in the OP. Why take your cloths off, get into bed, start doing it and then go "oh wait, this isn't what I want."

Bottom line, if you don't want it don't do it and don't fool others into doing it with you when you don't want to do it in the first place.

May I ask what you would do if a girl said no to you at the last minute? I'm curious.

[Granyala]

No, it's not shitty.

Depends on WHY she changes her mind.
If she was trolling the man and denies him the act for shits and giggles, she basically tortured the poor sod. I'd call that shitty behavior.

If she suddenly developed a conscience towards her better half and doesn't want to go through with the affair: understandable but still shitty behavior.

If she feels sick or is in pain or if the mood is suddenly gone, that's totally understandable. It happens. Us men tend to forget it sometimes, but women need to be in the right emotional state to enjoy sex and that state can be pretty fragile at times.

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And because of that attitude many men are not forgiving and think she owes them sex.
That's how you breed rapists.

Or they think she's "playing hard to get" if she changes her mind.

[prwraith]

unless you think she is obligated to let you touch her even when she does not want you to touch her, then she is doing nothing wrong by asking you to not touch her the moment she no longer wants you to touch her

and no one can control what they want, it just happens

uhhh...yes you can control yourself.

[stormgust]

seriously, if your mind cant handle someone not wanting you to touch them at ANY GIVEN MOMENT, that's your problem, not theirs

The hormons at play during intercourse (once arousal passes a certain threshold) are basically the same as those when you run away in fear for your live. In the later, you usually percieve little of your sorroundings, let alone are able to think straight.

So no, unless you're a machine, I doubt that your mind is able to control your body at any given time. Or to put it bluntly, occasionally you're like a wild animal, and it's mostly out of your control when this happens (i.e. evade the situation it occurs in).

[Deleted]

uhhh...yes you can control yourself.

Pretty sure controlling whether you feel like having sex or not is pretty damned hard and beyond most people.

[Total Crica]

uhhh...yes you can control yourself.

you can control your actions, not your wants

[Templar 331]

May I ask what you would do if a girl said no to you at the last minute? I'm curious.

Haven't found one to say yes yet. >.>

I would be understanding and go rub one out somewhere else. I'd be pissed off to hell and back but still......

[prwraith]

Pretty sure controlling whether you feel like having sex or not is pretty damned hard and beyond most people.

Pathetic people perhaps. Everybody wants sex, but if you can't control yourself in the moment that speaks to a weak pathetic human.

[Slant]

And because of that attitude many men are not forgiving and think she owes them sex.
That's how you breed rapists.

No, men are actually forgiving. See, we know sex isn't a commodity that you can "owe". The whole point of sex is to have her want it as much as you do, most of us are naturally turned off by women that don't work with us during sex. So even if they decide during sex that they don't want to have it, all they have to do is do nothing and like 90% of men will actually get very turned off by that.

And angry, too. So how are we forgiving? In not punching the woman in the face... see, that's how dudes would settle it.

[Total Crica]

The hormons at play during intercourse (once arousal passes a certain threshold) are basically the same as those when you run away in fear for your live. In the later, you usually percieve little of your sorroundings, let alone are able to think straight.

So no, unless you're a machine, I doubt that your mind is able to control your body at any given time. Or to put it bluntly, occasionally you're like a wild animal, and it's mostly out of your control when this happens (i.e. evade the situation it occurs in).

i was referring to the posters anger/disgust at the thought of a person no longer wanting them to touch them

[Deleted]

Pathetic people perhaps. Everybody wants sex, but if you can control yourself in the moment that speaks to a weak pathetic human.

No, you don't always want to have sex. I can be put off from having sex quite easily if the guy does something wrong even if I was up for it before that "wrong", as can I be put off if I get stressed by thinking about something I forgot to do during the day but that should've been done and so on.

[Granyala]

May I ask what you would do if a girl said no to you at the last minute? I'm curious.

Given the fact that I would only get intimate with a person I deeply love and trust and who feels the same way toward me?
None of us would want to continue if either one felt uncomfortable for whatever reason.

I'd give her a hug and a kiss on the forehead, put my clothes back on and ask if she wanted to talk about what was bothering her.

[ls-]

Us men tend to forget it sometimes, but women need to be in the right emotional state to enjoy sex and that state can be pretty fragile at times.

Dun we need right mood too? O_o

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Next we'll see people complaining about telling kids not to talk to strangers because its "Victim blaming"

[prwraith]

So, she should be polite and do something she doesn't want to do?

It isn't rude. It's only rude if you think she had to follow through with an obligation.... and she's not obligated to fuck you.

She shouldn't be a jackass and follow someone home, leading them on all night before she finally figures her shit out. There's no obligation there it's just her being shitty by leading someone on.

[Slant]

unless you think she is obligated to let you touch her even when she does not want you to touch her, then she is doing nothing wrong by asking you to not touch her the moment she no longer wants you to touch her

and no one can control what they want, it just happens

She's not obligated to letting me touch her in the same way that I'm not obligated to being cool with her manipulating me for an evening right until the point where I show my prince to the world (or her rather) before she tells me to fuck off.

As much as she has a right to tell me to stop, I have a right to be pissed off about it and tell her to hit the road.

[Granyala]

uhhh...yes you can control yourself.

You cannot control emotions and desires. Our brains are not equipped for that.
But you can control whether you ACT on the above. Unless you are somehow compromised (eg: being drunk).

[Total Crica]

She shouldn't be a jackass and follow someone home, leading them on all night before she finally figures her shit out. There's no obligation there it's just her being shitty by leading someone on.

so, yes, you think she is obligated to let you touch her even if she no longer wants you to touch her just because she wanted you to touch her before, ok

[Slant]

Or they think she's "playing hard to get" if she changes her mind.

No, I actually think she's an idiot for changing her mind like that... like actually a medically diagnosed type of actual menteal disease idiocy. It's either that or being a manipulative bitch. One thing will get my sympathy and a soft but firm escorting to the door, the other will get my scorn and a firm and definitely firm "Get out now or I'll kick you out, literally".