Hope that Assassination rogues get crossbow

[shaithis]

Anyone else ready to be a unique snowflake after 89% of all current rogues to switch to DH in Legion? Wish they would give us something like a fourth spec that specializes in ranged in order to add some flavor...

[rogueMatthias]

The Rogue Expansion Cycle -

• I really hope we get XXXXXX feature/improvement/fix. in the next expansion Blizz really need to update Rogues.
• It's early in beta naysayers, Blizz isn't going to let this go live like this, there'll be updates.
• The final expansion is in a few weeks, Blizz must be making some last minute changes
• So there were no changes on release, Blizz are surely going to be fixing it in a later patch
• I'm sure Blizz will look into this in the final patch; we scale better with gear anyway so hopefully we'll be ok.
• I really hope we get XXXXXX feature/improvement/fix. in the next expansion Blizz really need to update Rogues.

[Nevianx]

Anyone else ready to be a unique snowflake after 89% of all current rogues to switch to DH in Legion?

Too early to tell but DH don't really have much in common with Rogues. If anything, they are a more mobile version of Warrior/DK.

[Deleted]

The Rogue Expansion Cycle -

• I really hope we get XXXXXX feature/improvement/fix. in the next expansion Blizz really need to update Rogues.
• It's early in beta naysayers, Blizz isn't going to let this go live like this, there'll be updates.
• The final expansion is in a few weeks, Blizz must be making some last minute changes
• So there were no changes on release, Blizz are surely going to be fixing it in a later patch
• I'm sure Blizz will look into this in the final patch; we scale better with gear anyway so hopefully we'll be ok.
• I really hope we get XXXXXX feature/improvement/fix. in the next expansion Blizz really need to update Rogues.

You forgot the bit where they increase sinister strike / mutilate / hemo damage by 5% to stop us falling off the dps charts then nerf cloak of shadows to compensate.

But it's all fine because the dps charts are ok and the only thing that the majority of people care about, regardless of how boring, broken, or homogenised a spec is, if it puts out good dps it's working fine ™ .

[delus]

Reintroduce the "weapon specialisations" from tbc and wotlk talents trees as stronger aura style self buffs alongside bladeflurry and remove the energy penalty.

They never added anything useful and won't even be noticed since combat will have one set of weapons from here on out.

[rogueMatthias]

You forgot the bit where they increase sinister strike / mutilate / hemo damage by 5% to stop us falling off the dps charts then nerf cloak of shadows to compensate..

Well they always nerf the increase back down again before release anyway

[Deleted]

They never added anything useful and won't even be noticed since combat will have one set of weapons from here on out.

I actually hate that there will only be one set of weapons for each spec. Every retribution paladin will be running around with ashbringer for example, that's hardly a worthy status for such a legendary and lore rich weapon. My guess is that frost death knights will be running around with frostmourn too, which is an equally stupid decision.

It would have been somewhat acceptable if they were BIS, last tier, final boss, heroic/legendary weapons - but no. By the sounds of it every tom dick and harry will be running around with them as soon as they hit the level cap.

When will blizzard get it in their head that not everything is about numbers?

An upgrade is not just an upgrade because it does more damage/healing - aesthetics, lore, and time investment play a part also in the enjoyment of an item.

Its like if someone gives you $1000/£1000/€1000 , yeah sure it's nice and you'd be happy initially, but it's not quite as rewarding as being paid when you know you've worked hard for it. And if you give it to everyone, well there's this thing called inflation where it effectively becomes worthless, which is a similar principles that ruins the enjoyment and exclusivity of an item in game also.


... but to go back to the original quite, I was kind of suggesting a self aura that gave things like 5% crit, or 30% armour penetration, or 10% multi strike, or blade flurry for example. But this game is only about numbers and most people just won't care, they'll consult a spreadsheet and look at what gives the best DPS and move on with their lives. It's depressing that it comes down to this.