Rappers & misogyny

[Norwegian]

Why do rappers rap about killing/raping/beating women and as a society we still think it's okay/buy their albums/make them rich as fuck?

[Arrashi]

Yo dog, bitches need'a kno they place dog.

OT: Rap is a form of art and as such not everything should be taken directly. It is also artist choice on what topics he covers and how. You could argue that rappers bring audience attention to problem that is rape.

[ButterBeast]

nice bait thread. 7/10

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[Deleted]

It did always strike me as weird that feminists went after movies, gamers, Joss Whedon, scientists wearing shirts, scientists making jokes...

But they're still not going after rappers.

I mean Beyonce, a "feminist icon", is actually married to Jay-Z.

This Jay-Z:

"You know I - thug em, fuck em, love em, leave em
Cause I don't fuckin need em
Take em out the hood, keep em lookin good
But I don't fuckin feed em
First time they fuss I'm breezin
Talkin bout, "What's the reasons?"
I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch
Better trust than believe em
In the cut where I keep em
til I need a nut, til I need to beat the guts"

[Deleted]

if it's not a rapper that I make it as I'ma be a fucking rapist in a jason mask

[derpkitteh]

well, most rappers are black, and blacks seem to be exempt from criticism since slavery and white guilt says so. so the culture it creates is exempt from criticism.

[Independent voter]

Gangster culture is macho, meaning very male. People who are not capable of a lot of physical violence aren't valued.

[Ryme]

well, most rappers are black, and blacks seem to be exempt from criticism since slavery and white guilt says so. so the culture it creates is exempt from criticism.

Poor Eminem.

I say poor Eminem, the campaigns against him pretty much made his career what it is today.

[derpkitteh]

Poor Eminem.

I say poor Eminem, the campaigns against him pretty much made his career what it is today.

that was a different time. that was a time when it wasn't racism to criticize rap and hip hop culture.

now days, the people that rail for equality and feminism are the same people that shout you down and call you a racist if even think of pointing out how much of a fucking cancer hip hop and rap culture is.

[Polarthief]

that was a different time. that was a time when it wasn't racism to criticize rap and hip hop culture.

now days, the people that rail for equality and feminism are the same people that shout you down and call you a racist if even think of pointing out how much of a fucking cancer hip hop and rap culture is.

I'm pretty sure you're referring to SJWs and black people. Feminists wouldn't rail you for criticizing that garbage absolutely wonderful "art form" about raping and beating "bitches".

PS: Props to the rappers who actually try to NOT talk about drugs/beating women, btw. At least you're trying.

[Silhouette of Seraphim]

Rappers are only one "p" away from rapers.

#triggered

[Acidbaron]

That's a first that i hear that they aren't being targeted and it isn't being mentioned in woman right groups.

[Deleted]

how much of a fucking cancer hip hop and rap culture is.

Oh dear, did a rap album kill your mother by any chance?

[Slant]

that was a different time. that was a time when it wasn't racism to criticize rap and hip hop culture.

now days, the people that rail for equality and feminism are the same people that shout you down and call you a racist if even think of pointing out how much of a fucking cancer hip hop and rap culture is.

I thought I should just put this in context with this:

well, most rappers are black, and blacks seem to be exempt from criticism since slavery and white guilt says so. so the culture it creates is exempt from criticism.

Just for my own amusement's sake. Not saying you're a racist. Just letting your own words speak for themselves.

[Deleted]

It's "ok" because they are black. If you say something abuot it, it's racist!

Or something along these lines, basically.

[imabanana]

This Jay-Z:

"You know I - thug em, fuck em, love em, leave em
Cause I don't fuckin need em
Take em out the hood, keep em lookin good
But I don't fuckin feed em
First time they fuss I'm breezin
Talkin bout, "What's the reasons?"
I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch
Better trust than believe em
In the cut where I keep em
til I need a nut, til I need to beat the guts"

Heh, glad I listen to music instead.

[Fencers]

Why do rappers rap about killing/raping/beating women and as a society we still think it's okay/buy their albums/make them rich as fuck?

I think it is because people are scared to criticize music artists. The music industry historically has been critiqued a lot for social 'immorality' and it has fought back pretty hard against social and legal finger wagging. Free speech and all.

So really, a lot of people just don't want the fight. They don't want to have to argue with Future on CNN.

Rap is largely a fantasy too. Just like as a lot of extreme metal is quite hostile and misogynistic.

[Slant]

Heh, glad I listen to music instead.

I don't think hating on rap and feeling the need to diss it as "not music" qualifies you for passing judgement on rap culture or the texts. This goes for everyone in this thread who dislikes rap on principle and then goes on to use the lyrics as an argument to hate on rap music. If you don't like it, fine.. but don't make me start reading up some of those death metal lyrics, because they're just as fucked up...

[Deleted]

Why do rappers rap about killing/raping/beating women and as a society we still think it's okay/buy their albums/make them rich as fuck?

Because stupid white middle-class kids get off on it.

Whilst hip-hop was developing in the black community in the 80's the music was much more about social issues and was much more musically and lyrically interesting. You had groups like Public Enemy who were very millitant but very intelligent, constantly encouraging the listener to educate himself.

The whole thing changed with NWA in the 90's. It became apparent you could sell records to millions of stupid white middle-class kids living vicariously through gangster rap. Naturally the hip-hop community stopped doing stuff about social issues and did what made money.

The irony is that the hip-hop community now gets accused of portraying the black community in a negative light. The truth is that white people want to see them in a negative light and will pay for that expectation.

This sums it up:

[Lochton]

Why do rappers rap about killing/raping/beating women and as a society we still think it's okay/buy their albums/make them rich as fuck?

Don't know, you could carry this question on to some other music genres. Or even climb the ladder to a higher stage, why pay for music that sounds like eletronic noise?

Really, it is music in the end, and some of it doesn't always picture the actual rapper.