Not only does globalism need to go fuck itself, but we need to run out of oil as soon as possible (before 100% viable alternatives come to fruition) thereby isolating the continents from each other again.
Firstly i'm not really dealing in "ideals" i'm dealing in climate change and use/conservation of resources. We are stilling living through the next great extinction and if the temperature keeps increasing as it is every single living thing on this planet is going to feel it blue, green, white or black. These are cold hard realities unfortunately so It doesn't matter if your a Muslim cleric in Iran or a fundamentalist Christian in Texas we are going to have to deal with this problem somehow.
I understand the criticism however, this wouldn't be my wish particularly either but under the current system what have we done to address any of the global problems in the past sixty years? If anyone has any other alternatives aside from keep going and hope technology bails us out i'd love to hear them.
Secondly i'm not advocating some sort of global fourth reich. Though it has many flaws and drawbacks the EU shows diverse nations can cooperate on the sort of national level this undertaking would require. It obviously helps all European nations began with Western ideals but were not a million miles from countries like Turkey joining so it shows we can cooperate if the desire and will is there.
You believing you don't deal in ideals, doesn't mean everyone else will agree with you. Have you seen the climate debate in the US?
So why do you think on a global level that the majority will agree with you that climate change is a problem, and agree with you that we should deal with it?
And what makes you think the majority of the earths population would agree with you on a reproduction limit?
The problem with a global state is that you can't have it and think suddenly things will improve the way you'd want it. If you can't even get your own country to agree with you many things, why would you think expanding the electorate to include all the populations with different cultures and socioeconomic circumstances would suddenly improve your chances?
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TPP, the Pacific Rim trade treaty has a lot of laws concerning treatment of workers, etc. It's the start of something like global laws.
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"This will be a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival cannot be expected. We will do what damage we can."
-- Capt. Copeland
A set of global laws would never work though because the thing about laws, while some do in fact protect human rights, a lot are created just to maintain status quo and to protect their right to be in power. That is the true purpose of both government and religion, to control the plebeians. I mean shit, you ask anyone on the street what they think of ANY politician and you'll get some variant of the word "corruption". I wonder, just who would be in charge of the world... If we give it to the hegemon, USA is now in charge of the world (sweet), I bet the Middle east is just thrilled. we all know how well they're reacting to LGBT right atm.
Say what you want, but humans are, historically, a very violent species. Just look at shit like the coliseum or public lynchings. Yes, we're a little bit more progressive now and find "safer" ways to get our violence on, but for real... we find the most retarded excuses to hate/kill each other, "you look different" or "you think differently" and my favorite, "my god can beat up your god"
...There is a very old and cliche saying, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Humanity well never unite under one banner until we have a new, more different enemy (extraterrestrial). Something that will make us look at our (global) neighbors and realize we're not so different at all.
"Always wash your berries before you eat them...And fly towards the sun!"
You keep bringing up this global state. I never said I wanted a global state I actually explicitly said I didn't want a global state. I'm British and we live within certain rules governed by the EU this hasn't caused some super tyranny and has helped Europe address certain problems that transcend sovereignty. Is the EU perfect? No but like I said it SHOWS what can be done with the will.
What would be so wrong about the planets developed nations coming together and buying the rain forest to halt its destruction for instance? I think its universally accepted destroying the rain forest is a bad thing detrimental to our planet but If everyone owns it then nobody owns it would be the line of reasoning.
Buying rain forests and then having the owners decide what to do with it, is not global law. The EU works, somewhat, because it's voluntary. We don't force countries into it, countries decide to apply. The countries in it, for the most part share values. Do you really think Saudi Arabia, for example, would join the EU and submit to it's rules?