Blizzcon - Engineering Panel, Item Hotfixes, Tweets, DLC #507

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Blizzcon - Engineering Panel
While we don't have the Blizzcon schedule just yet, we now know there will be an engineering panel this year! We rarely hear official things about engineering outside of the very rare Engineer's Workshop blog post, so this should be a nice opportunity for players interested in the technical aspects of the game to get some more information!

Patch 6.2.2 Hotfixes - The Frozen Halls
It seems that most of the loot from Pit of Saron and some of The Frozen Halls zone drops had their sell price reduced by 90%, along with the removal of sockets (but not the socket bonus) from some items like Polished Mirror Helm.

Level	Type	Slot	Name
219	Neck	Neck	Painfully Sharp Choker
219	Finger	Finger	Purloined Wedding Ring
219	Cloth	Feet	Ice-Steeped Sandals
219	Cloth	Wrists	Wristguards of Subterranean Moss
219	Back	Back	Cloak of the Fallen Cardinal
219	Cloth	Chest	Palebone Robes
219	Cloth	Legs	Rimewoven Silks
219	Leather	Waist	Flayer's Black Belt
219	Leather	Legs	Shaggy Wyrmleather Leggings
219	Mail	Head	Polished Mirror Helm
219	Mail	Chest	Shroud of Rime
219	Mail	Legs	Black Dragonskin Breeches
219	Mail	Head	Horns of the Spurned Val'kyr
219	Mail	Waist	Scabrous Zombie Leather Belt
219	Mail	Wrists	Gondria's Spectral Bracer
219	Plate	Chest	Scourgelord's Frigid Chestplate
219	Plate	Head	Skeleton Lord's Cranium
219	Plate	Waist	Bent Gold Belt
219	Shield	Off Hand	Protector of Frigid Souls
219	Gun	Ranged	Rimebane Rifle
219	Two-handed Mace	Two Hand	Garfrost's Two-Ton Hammer
219	Staff	Two Hand	Unspeakable Secret
219	Dagger	One Hand	Krick's Beetle Stabber
219	Plate	Waist	Titanium Links of Lore
219	Cloth	Shoulders	Mantle of Tattered Feathers
219	Plate	Hands	Plated Grips of Korth'azz
219	Wand	Ranged	Coffin Nail

Blue Tweets

True story... That reminds me of the fun story of how Rawr's Optimizer's progress bar worked. Ask me some time.(Celestalon)
So, how did the Rawr Optimizer progress bar work?
Rawr's Optimizer used a genetic algorithm (mostly the handiwork of to search for potential improvements. That... (Celestalon)
...means that it wasn't an exhaustive search, it was just really good at searching the likely places. But that also means... (Celestalon)
...that it could virtually infinitely keep searching less and less likely options. Solution was to let user specify... (Celestalon)
...a desired 'thoroughness', which controlled how long it'd keep looking if it hadn't found an improvement in a while. The... (Celestalon)
...progress bar was really a timer of how long it'd been since it found an improvement, except never going backward. That's it. (Celestalon)

Ghostcrawler Tweets
Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.

the problem as I see it, blizzard made design choices based on how they think we SHOULD play vs how we WANT to play.
It's tough. The two at the end of the day aren't all that different. But it's not as is if all players speak with one voice. (OccupyGStreet)
And at times players think they're perfectly happy with what they have but get excited about something they didn't expect. (OccupyGStreet)

Blaming your customers for your bad product is a terrible, terrible way to do business.
I think the point is more that communicating with players (esp. angry ones) isn't really the product. (OccupyGStreet)
Engaging with players can be important and valuable but at the end of the day that isn't the game. (OccupyGStreet)
And yet the developer narrative holds the players at fault for the performance of the actual product.
Product failures are always the fault of the product team. I don't hear any blaming the customer here. (OccupyGStreet)

Dark Legacy Comics #507 - Scapegoat
DLC #507 has been released.

[Eleccybubb]

Interesting panel for Blizzcon. And as usual pretty funny DLC

[thewallofsleep]

Reducing vendor value and sockets on nearly 5 year old gear? Why?

[Deleted]

Reducing vendor value and sockets on nearly 5 year old gear? Why?

They are "fixing" people botting those instances...

...Blizzard Style.

[Eggroll]

Wtf, changing WotLK gear. No wonder these guys get nothing done...

[Mormolyce]

I guess that's the new bot hot spot?

Lame.

[Xentronium]

Engineering panel, neat. How about some hardware porn figures? What sort of hardware do they use these days?

[Durandro]

Wtf, changing WotLK gear. No wonder these guys get nothing done...

Which takes maybe an hour of coding to change some numbers around. Its not as if they've redesigned the instances, its a very minor fix for some kind of issue (probably related to gold farming).

Blizzard gets a LOT done. You just don't see it until its finished and comes out in one big chunk.

[SL1200]

I hate it when they nerf the gold in old instances. Why not ban the botters instead of killing the fun for everyone else?

[Mic_128]

Lowering the sell price, makes sense. Removing sockets? I...don't get it. Anyone know why they'd do that? Timewalking scaling exploit or something?

[Buu]

Marco Koegler have been my favorite developer for years.
The things I enjoyed the most in MoP came from his area.
Frack Blizzard if it isn't in the Virtual Ticket.

[furydeath]

now they can tell us more on bigger backpacks and better mail system

[Alleji]

I hate it when they nerf the gold in old instances. Why not ban the botters instead of killing the fun for everyone else?

Does your fun consist of vendoring gear you farmed in Pit of Saron?

[SL1200]

Does your fun consist of vendoring gear you farmed in Pit of Saron?

Not really, but it does come from farming the Cataclysm raids, that will probably be next.

[The Last DJ]

Lowering the sell price, makes sense. Removing sockets? I...don't get it. Anyone know why they'd do that? Timewalking scaling exploit or something?

Sockets = higher item budget = means it vendors for more.

[Jasper Kazai]

Not really, but it does come from farming the Cataclysm raids, that will probably be next.

I was worried about that for a second as well, but I doubt it will be as severe as this nerf, if it does ever come. You can only run raids once a week, whereas you can run 5-mans almost infinitely. For a botter, a raid would be a much less ideal way to farm gold.

[lavaalamp]

yeah makes sense they nerfed the gold farming in the LK instances but why remove the sockets? doesn't make sense...unless they're starting to expand timeless dungeons

nevermind, just found out out sockets add to the amount of gold the item is worth.

[Baneleaf]

Well I guess the side gold made while farming battered hilts had gone to hell now. Though i usually did not kill bosses which drop most of this gear but some were random drops in the dungeons. Those instances were nice income if you were making a herald toon or helping someone make one because anything that could not be used would be vendored and made it worth your time. But as usual botters ruin things for the rest of us, nerf to multiboxing and now this.

[SinR]

I was expecting them to say "We're removing the Engineering profession completely. Sorry about that folks" but then I realized its about game engine/server stuff.

[Arvandor]

nerfing gold in wow is good..

another hunter joke in dlc is stupid!